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25 points, 14 boards, 3 blocks, 2 assists .660 FG%, when Yao plays 30+ minutes

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by forenzi, Dec 5, 2002.

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  1. forenzi

    forenzi Member

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    this stat should speak for itself. Enough experimenting leave Yao in the games.

    Does anyone know what happened to Windandsea ?his last post was 11/20/01.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Probably caught behind the Great FireWall of China.

    :)

    DaDakota
     
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    Where did he go?? He would always find the most obscure Ming pics and articles that you couldn't find anywhere else. Maybe he found another message board.
     
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    I didn't know there were other boards.
     
  5. Texas Stoke

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    much easier said than done. Theres the fatigue factor. Yao is noticeably tired at times. he even said in his latest interview something like he was a little shy about signaling in for his personal sub when he feels he needs a rest. personally i'd love to see Ming play 40 minutes but its not going to happen. the 30 to 37 minute range should give Yao just enough rest and allow him to maintain his current high peformance level.
     
  6. A-Train

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    Maybe windandsea is the Rockets' guardian angel. Now that he has delivered Ming to us and ensured his success, his work here is done and he moves on to another poor soul...Up next, the Cleveland Cavaliers...

    hmmmm...better yet....windandsea, get out while you still can!! Take your wings and harp and get a nice cloud above Florida somewhere!!
     
  7. Lobo

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    I agree - let Ming have a little rest, especially considering there's not that huge a drop off with Kelvin Cato in there :eek: , at least in terms of defense and rebounding. 30-35 minutes sounds about right for now.
     
  8. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    No question there is a fatigue factor with Yao Ming but Rudy has to watch it closely and make sure he gets SOME rest but at the same time he NEEDS to make sure Ming it out there as much as possible.

    I think his average minutes is around 20 a game. That has to be bumped up to over 30 a game for him to continue to be a factor. In the two games where he exploded for 27 and 30 points a lot of his scores were on put backs and rebounding and he needs minutes to get those rebounds.

    Excluding foul problems which surprisingly have not been that much of a factor so far.....I would like for Ming to get around 10 minutes in the first quarter, sit down for a rest and then play the last 5 or so minutes of the second quarter. Repeat in the second half.

    Chris
     
  9. JayZ750

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    This has got to be a classic case of the stats not telling the whole story. It's more likely that int eh games Yao was "dominating" or at least playing well in, he was kept in longer and got the minutes, and not the other way around. While I agree that he shuold be given 30+ a night, his performance is much much more independent of his playing time than the thread suggests.

    Should the date be 11/20/02?
     
  10. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    No question this could be the case. But I also think that the games in which Yao Ming dominated he got INVOLVED early in the game, got touches, made some baskets and got some confidence. I think it behooves the Rockets if they make a concerted effort to get Yao Ming involved early and get his confidence up because he becomes more of a factor later in the game.

    The games in which Yao Ming has so-so stats are games in which he does not get touches or baskets early and then I think he just coasts.

    Chris
     
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    I think Yao Ming should play the first 10 minutes of the 1st, the last 10 of the second, the first 10 of the third, and the last 10 of the fourth. That gives Cato 18 minutes. If he looks tired or gets tired he should waive Cato in for a 2 minute breather and adjust the time table accordingly, or if Cato and the team are doing well, go ahead and rest him longer...

    Cat, Steve and Yao Ming should each play 40 minutes... :D
     
  12. Behad

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    That is 58 minutes...not gonna work, chief.
     
  13. ricerocket

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    It's the new math... ;)

    OK, Cato gets 8. I think Yao Ming will need those breathers though. So Yao probably would average more like 35 and Cato 13
     
  14. heypartner

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    for anyone who thinks we are a playoff team (namely, Francis, Mobley and Rudy), you have to seriously worry about burning out Yao Ming before playoff time. We *must* make the playoffs, so burn that Rocket booster if you have to, but I would still be shy about pushing that booster button too much, because the most important games for future development of Francis and Yao start in late April.

    Yao is probably incapable of gauging his longterm stamina over the course of an NBA season, so it will take Rudy's experience to gauge that.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    HP has some very good points.

    I would limit his minutes as much as possible. Let him average 25-28 minutes a game, and cato 20-23 minutes, and then increase it come playoff time.

    DaDakota
     
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    HP,

    Agreed. However, if we secure a playoff spot say 5 games before the playoffs we could give Yao some light duty and rest and work Cato so he is tuned up for the playoffs. Cato will be needed in the playoffs.

    Anyone think we will be a dangerous 5 game series team! :D
     
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    You're looking at it from the wrong direction. Perhaps it's not that when Yao gets minutes, he plays wel... but that when he plays well, he gets mor minutes.
     
  20. heypartner

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    Well, there's your answer. W&S is saving up.
     

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