went to the game on Saturday. He looks nothing special. All of our big men matched up well with him. Is it just me or is he not great anymore? Has he ever been great? Jordan Hill looked great. Hope this kid keeps working hard for us. RP
He was never great. Steve Nash made everyone on those Suns teams look good. He's an average-borderline allstar talent.
He needs a PG. If they can pry Nash from Phx, or really if they can get Nash to simply ask for the trade, they would be 10x better imo. Amare with Lowry would be worth it. I wouldn't sell the whole team for it though. Just Scola and fillers. $100 million contract is pretty redonk
that's pretty much it.. without a decent PG Amare doesn't flourish... the other thing to consider is that he clearly is not happy with the team situation...he would be playing much better if his team players weren't chit..
I kept telling all of the pro-amare people that he was overrated and all he does is shoot 17fters that he can't even make consistently. He's also damaged goods and has a really bad contract.
Exactly right. All of these guys can honestly thank Nash and DiAntoni's system for their contracts. Joe Johnson Shawn Marion Stoudemire Q. Richardson Jason Richarson Barbosa Diaw I'm sure there are more.
I wouldn't deem trading Battier & Scola for him as "all in" -- but I guess the contract is another story.
I really loathe when people say "Nash made _____ so much better." And oh yeah...those players made Nash look better as well. Ever thought about that? If Nash made Amare into Amare then why isn't their a new PF putting up the numbers Amare did? Why when Nash went out Amare STILL had big games. Why when Amare went to NYK he had huge games, including a stretch of like 30ppg for 5 games straight?
People say it because it is true. Nash makes players around him better. The reason Channing Frye isn't as good as Amare is because his peak is no where near as high. Nash gets players to play at their highest level when they play around him. While it is true better players around Nash would make his stats better, the fact is Amare doesn't make Nash better, he just helps pump his stats.
HIs numbers actually look better when his teammates suck. However, he's the only one touching the ball, his efficiency becomes crap, his teammates get worse, and the Knicks lose. Other than that, he's awesome!
Nash doesn't make Amare better, he just helps pumps his stats. Same for Joe Johnson and other people on that list that have had more than solid careers playing without Nash.
I loathe when people say Jason Kidd made Kenyon Martin so much better, and oh yeah, those players made Kidd look better as well. Ever thought about that? If Kidd made Kenyon into Kenyon then why isn't their a new PF putting numbers Kenyon did? Why when Kidd went out Kenyon STILL had big games. Why when Kenyon went to Denver he had huge games, including a stretch of like 30ppg for 5 games straight? or I loathe when people say Jason Kidd made Richard Jefferson so much better, and oh yeah, those players made Kidd look better as well. Ever thought about that? If Kidd made Richard into Richard then why isn't their a new SF putting numbers Richard did? Why when Kidd went out Richard STILL had big games. Why when Richard went to San Antonio he had huge games, including a stretch of like 30ppg for 5 games straight?
Amare at this point in his career and even right now as how he is playing is still better than Scola.
O rly? solid is max pay with mediocre performances ? Ps you're missing the point. Nash sets up Amare its not the other way around but in the end they need each other. Nash in fact makes people better by setting them up and feeding at perfect times. None the less that is his job which is the reason he is a great pg . Sadly you still need competent player to produce and make shots. On to
^agreed but one has a max contract one doesn't. For max I don't want slightly better I want a grip load better performance.
I think Nash made Dantoni's crappy system look good and that system made Amare look good, but the other guys have played about the same as they did with Nash at some other point in their careers. Marion and Joe Johnson in particular were all stars before and after Nash (respectively). And, I actually blame Dantoni for making Amare such a pansy. Another coach would have forced him to use some of those beach muscles in the paint and he would have had a reliable low post game by now instead of working on his three pointers.
Also Joe Johnson had a better career without Nash than with him. His max contract is because of his own game and has nothing to do with Nash. When Nash makes a nice bounce pass to a rolling Amare and Amare slams it down or makes a nice finish in the lane the only part Nash did was give him the ball. As Nash is finding out now (or he already knew more like) you can pass the ball to anyone but it won't matter if they can't finish. So it's not really Nash making Amare better it's more like he makes the game easier to play. Not better. Meanwhile Carmelo is like the guy on NBA2k12 in my player mode that never passes when you're open but hands you the ball when 5 seconds start ticking.
