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How much longer until Bud is demoted to 3rd string?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pge71188, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. DaDakota

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    Except that the advanced stats that folks love says he can and does it well.

    So, if we are consistent here, people's perception is that he can not guard anyone, but the advanced stats say he can't.

    Now, my perception is completely consistent, I see that he knows his limitations and forces people to take contested jump shots by laying off and attacking on the shot commit.

    DD
     
  2. heypartner

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    that was last year under a different system. Isn't that what you like to say all the time..."different system." He can't play D that well. Adelman protected him well, and we didn't have Parsons. This year, McHale doesn't need to protect Bud, because he can play Parsons and Lee instead -- two guys who can protect other people ... who don't need to be protected...think about that.

    I expect with Parsons and Bert starting...and Lee returning...and PPat getting back to last yr's production (and more) ... I expect our defense to improve.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    I'm just not sure PPat has the fire. Very unimpressed with his last performances, although he was better towards the end of the last game.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Oh, I agree HP....I don't think Bud fits nearly as well as Parsons with McHale's system.

    And I am not saying Bud is even in the ballpark defensively as Parsons....at least from what I have seen.

    Parsons has earned that spot, he has been very impressive.

    DD
     
  5. heypartner

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    Shake it off Patterson! We need you! Is it because he misses his UK brothren Hayes.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    I call Patterson Biggie Smalls because he plays a small game as a big, doesn't rebound well, doesn't block shots, hardly any post game....just a midrange shooting PF.

    We need a banger.

    DD
     
  7. getbloodyred

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    hop off of chase budingers dick
    face the facts dude chase is a 3rd stringer on a contending team.
    we need to get rid of him
     
  8. BigBull17

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    Chase is an off the bench instant offense type guy. Every team needs one and he should realise that many of guys have had long sucessful careers doing just that. something like 20 minutes a night, 10 or so points ect.

    Like DD said, I'm sick of the soft ass under sized jump shooting PF's we seem to love a great deal. I like one of them paired in a rotation with a banger. just a a wide body who boards and dunks.
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    But are you okay with 15 points one nite and 3 points the next. Or 15 points for 5 games in row, and 2 for 8 shooting for 10 games in a row. That is what we get with Bud.

    If Bud could give 10 points every night at a decent clip, I would be totally happy with him despite his defensive shortcomings. This is the reason I liked him his rookie season. However, he goes through terrible games where he doesn't give anything on offense and doesn't do anything other than give up layups.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Instant offense guys need to shoot better. Chase is a career 34% three- point shooter.

    Or at the least he should be able to create his own shot, which he can't.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    McHale said he was moving him to the 2nd team to get him more shots, a place where he could be the focus more, then promptly brings KMart in with Chase....thus negating everything he said.

    Chase could be a scorer off the bench, but he is not a "Force it" guy, he needs plays called for him, and right now our bench has a PG that wants to shoot, and has no cohesive plays.

    So, not surprised a guy who plays within himself gets a bit lost occassionally.

    DD
     
  12. DaDakota

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    See, I agree with this.....Chase is not a guy to create his own shot, he played best with someone like Lowry who would get him the ball on time and on point.

    He is lost playing with Dragic who uh....does not do that.....

    One would hope that McHale would be sharp enough to figure this out on his own, that a catch and shoot player needs to play with a pinpoint passer.

    DD
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Chase is also great at finishing at the rim.

    If he would be more aggressive in cutting to the basketball and moving without the ball, he could be that annoying guy always getting layups and dunks. He has the athleticism to do it.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    See this is true but right now without a system, guys are left to their own devices, and what McHale is asking people to do is to let the PG dictate and drive the ball in and be ready to catch and shoot, that is why we are a jump shooting team.

    So, someone like Chase moves, but if you move too much you clog the lane and bog down the offense, because Scola and Dally are already in the lane, thus forcing us to shoot long range jumpers.

    Chase is 100% a system player, and the Rockets right now do not have one, or a good one, or a consistent one....and it is effecting a lot of players.

    Scola is worse, Hill is worse, Bud is worse, Kmart is worse - pretty much everyone's numbers are down except for Lowry....who has the ball all the time anyway.

    I would have hoped that many could see this but judging by a lot of the posts, I guess not.

    DD
     
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    He was doing all that last year as a rookie, yet when it's apparent that he's still recovering from ankle surgery, we're quick to bury him.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    No need to bury him, I agree. But even last year he scored the majority of his shots from 15 feet and was hardly a threat in the post or on the boards.

    DD
     
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    Bud was a mediocre shooter under Adelman as well, playing either next to Brooks or Lowry. Sure, he'll be more effective next to a pg that will feed him open looks all day, but that's true of any player.
     
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    It is a huge problem when Lowry leaves the floor and Dragic is running the team because of the fact that Dragic is a shooter. Dragic is another 2 in a 1's body.

    With that said, Chase hasn't been aggressive to the rim in some time, perhaps going back to his rookie campaign. Something has happened to his aggression.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

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    He's never had any. In fact, that's why his draft stock fell as soon as he got stepped on (literally). He just doesn't have the consistent aggression on the court to be a successful player.

    DD once called him an "Emotional player" meaning he relies on his emotions to help his game. Not a good trait for an off the bench scorer.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Oh I concur, he is harly consistent, he needs to get involved more and that is on him......

    That being said, he doesn not fit here any longer, so hopefully the team can flip him for something because letting him rot on the bench with TWill will only kill his trade value and he does have some.

    DD
     

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