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Daryl Morey on the Rockets 2009 Lottery "Bust" Pickups

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    The quotes above really aren't all that critical. The Williams and Flynn quotes just said they got beat out by other guys in the rotation. He even said Williams has given good minutes.

    The Hill quote says he's inconsistent, has good and bad games. I am pretty sure everyone, especially Hill himself, knows this.

    The Thabeet quote was really the only one that seems critical, and even there he didn't say "Thabeet sucks" just that he didn't give the team what it needed.

    Some people are too sensitive when people talk about their pet players.
     
  2. Patience

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    I think that would be a fair comment also, and it still would be more of an indictment against TWill than Morey.
     
  3. scolandry1

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    Is Thabeet gone after this year if his option isn't picked up? Maybe that would light a fire under him knowing the party is almost over.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    LOL - you mean like you when folks mention Lowry's lack of lateral quickness????

    It has nothing to do with pet players, it has to do with management style and keeping it in house versus airing it in public.

    Nothing wrong with sitting down with a player and giving them direct criticism, but doing it on the radio - I just don't agree with it.

    And yes, I know others disagree that is cool......for me personally, it is a poor choice from a management perspective.

    DD
     
  5. durvasa

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    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Not really that harsh, and in the case of Hill and Williams I thought he was being kind.
     
  6. bnb

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    He also didn't say he regretted the signings. Just that they hadn't worked out as he'd hoped so far.

    It's a pretty mild criticism overall.

    Pray these guys don't read clutchfans....
     
  7. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I highly doubt that saying scrub players are scrubs is going to hurt anyone's feelings at this point in time. Besides, coddling them has not helped us at all either, so maybe calling them out a bit publicly will make them better. Fact is, Hill is disappointing, Flynn has always sucked, and no one realistically believed that Beet would pan out into anything. T-Will is still a question mark, but we are stacked at his positions right now with Chandler, Lee, and Dragic.
     
  8. freeze00up

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    For most of the 09ers taking a flier on a lottery talent doesn't mean much when the original team is willing to part with them so easily. Honestly if Minnesota and Memphis have no faith in you then you probably are not playable. Jordan Hill was worth taking because it was still barely half of his rookie season and TWill was so-so.
     
  9. Slam Dunk

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    If we can dump those guys for draft picks before the end of the season I'd be pretty happy.
     
  10. JoeBarelyCares

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    Not a big deal, the secret will be out in seven days when none of their options are picked up.

    Maybe he's telegraphing to the rest of the league that if they want to trade for any one of them, and pick up their option, they only have one week. After that, they simply become expiring contracts.
     
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  11. sammy

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    DM has a better track record than the busts. He's a legit GM whereas these guys have not proved to be even legitimate rotational players on a decent team.

    P.S. It's not a foregone conclusion that we lose our pick to NJ. It's only if we make the playoffs. And since you think this team is the worst one in the last 25 years, we should miss the playoffs, right? :grin:
     
  12. cod

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    yeah, people are projecting too much, or looking to vent over anything.
     
  13. Akim523

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    Treating your players as assets will get you no where.
     
  14. jaxwithanx

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    Wouldn't the opinions of a GM of a professional basketball's team be "strictly business"? That is his job, look at a team and then form an opinion. That being said, airing out those opinions in public probably isn't always the way you want to go about your business consistently. But he doesn't often give much insight and what he said wasn't discouraging, more than a verbal representation of what everyone can obviously tell - it's not like he just started offering his opinions on why they haven't been successful. He just said a basic, public fact....they haven't come here and been successful like hoped for.
     
  15. RV6

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    Why hide what everyone already knows.
     
  16. smuduffy

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    I was originally thinking we might take the option on JHill and Twill, but after watching so far this season, I tend to agree we probably drop bait and move on. You can only have project guys on your team for so long. I think TWill is a better player than JHill, but I'd probably lean to keeping JHill just for height purposes as he is not horrible just inconsistent and his salary is what like 2-3 mil next year? Sounds cheap for a big man, I don't know, what do you guys think given his salary?
     
  17. OlajuwonFan81

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    This. I can understand if it was a player that people thought were good but nobody in their right mind thinks guys like Flynn or Thabeet are worth a dime.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    You guys do realize that in a matter of weeks, the front office has to make huge decisions on whether or not to pick up the options on all of these players. And for the most part, they should not, and probably will not pick up the options on almost every if not all of these guys.

    At that point he will have to address it publicly what is going on with this group of players and why they didnt get extended.

    I think its a last call for these players(especially Jordan Hill) to give it one last push to convince the coaches and front office to invest in their future. Publicly or not, these guys MUST realize the urgency to prove something in their soon to be forgotten NBA careers.

    Guys like Jordan especially should be busting tails tails in practice and working incredibly hard in the playing time he gets. The other guys are just going to have to work that much harder in practice.

    They might think life will be easier next summer when they can try out for other squads, but they dont realize how much harder it will be to succeed with a nonguaranteed contract on a bad team.

    I for one, have no problem with what Morey said. The NBA already wrote the book on all of them, and the Rockets gave them all a shot at redemption. Not one of them did what they had to do to earn playing time in the NBA.
     
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  19. faraza84

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    Some players get butt hurt easy. It's a business but in the end of the day no one wants to be talked about that way in the media when the employer is saying that. Prob gives a bad rep to our organization. I don't know how other gms handle their players but I know Toronto would call out bosh and company. Besides being Canada that could have something to do with no one wanting to go there.
     
  20. choujie

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    Every GM in NBA treats players as assets. But every year one of them will get the hardware.
     

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