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[Sheridan] Dwight Howard's wish list now includes the Clippers

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Commodore, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. gmoney411

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    That's quite the statement about a guy that plays no defense and has no post moves. You put Howard on any team and you are instantly a much much better defensive team. I am a big Blake Griffin fan but his game is very limited right now. There is no excuse for an athlete like that to only be averaging .4 blocks a game. He is still young and might bet much better but he could also be an Amare type player.
     
  2. SPF35

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    Griffin is literally untouchable for the clippers. The excitement he brings and is must see TV, not just for hoop reasons, but for that, the clippers will not trade him, even for howard.

    Nets and Lakers are still offering the best package with young centers in return straight up. Magic look like they are ready to go empty handed.

    Yea this super team friends started this whole fad, its sad to see the new age stars go down this line, but it just means more respect for Rose, Durant
     
  3. Kronos

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    Until they are FA and join forces.
     
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    Very possible. The clips give up DJ and fillers, that may be the best deal orlando gets. I think DJ is going to be a top center soon. He reminds be a lot of Chandler.

    What else could they get from the teams he wants to play with? Maybe the Lakers can offer Bynum, a little injury prone, but definitely a top 3 center. I hope he stays east, unless of course it is with us. If the west gets super stacked these next few years would be brutal.

    Wonder if Martin and Scola would entice them? Doubt-it.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    Get real. Lakers with Bynum alone smashes that.
     
  6. PinoyRocket

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    do youthik they would trade Dwight without getting Griffin?
     
  7. plutoblue11

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    1. Yao Ming was Chinese coming into the league.

    He was Chinese coming into league, as well as going out, but he is a very humble person, whether he's Chinese or not. Somewhat irrelevant to someone's personality.


    [B}Think it has a lot to do with the Super Friends stuff. He was drafted in 2004 after the class of 2003 but he played with them on the national TEAM.[/B]

    Alot of people were on LeBron's case, during 2009-10 season, yet he never really discussed his plans during the season or told his GM or owner were he wanted to be traded. In that regard, he was very professional and respectful about that matter to his team, as they were focused on winning that season at hand. Yet, that was not good enough for some people out there, as he should've told his team that he was leaving ahead of time. Though, I have to say did he really have his mind made up around January to April. He was far more respectful to his team's regards, during the season than Howard or Melo. Moreover, what they had been doing is no better than what LeBron eventually did in the summer.


    I can remember Dwight calling every woman ma'am when he came into the league.... was quite the nice guy which he still is.

    He has manners, but that doesn't necessarily make him a nice guy. Though that is besides the point, and plus he has a way of being very self-righteous and a bit to desperate for airtime on the camera with his rather unfunny and outdated sense of humor.
     
  8. jopatmc

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    Martin/Scola/Dally/Lowry may interest them.
     
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    Wasnt there talk before Yao was drafted that he would only be permitted to play in the NBA if it was to a city with a strong asian base?
     
  10. A_3PO

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    At this point, it appears the only trade before the deadline would be for Bynum + Pau. Otherwise Howard stays in Orlando the entire season.

    If the Lakers give up both Bynum and Pau, the trade will not improve them this season and they still won't be contenders. They would change from 3-on-5 to 2-on-5. But for the long term, it would be a good trade.
     
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    The Clippers have little to nothing to give Orlando in return in trade that will compare to Bynum or the Nets offer. Its amazing to me that Houston isnt involve in the conversation for leverage. Maybe they will jump in the convo here soon when it comes closer to the deadline.



    Houston would throw the kitchen sink at Orlando and jump the price up significantly.


    Something like Morris, Parsons, Patterson, Dalembert, Montejunas, 2 first round picks, and Lowry would all be major draws for Otis Smith.

    If Otis Smith is smart, he would realize that D-Mo would be considered a top 5 pick this year in the draft, and sell him to the fans as a major prospect.

    Houston would make all of those players available in trade as well Martin/Scola if they were interested. Obviously not all at once, but a package that would make the Lakers, Clippers, etc. give the kitchen sink to get Howard.

    Morey getting involved helps the Rockets too even if they loose out of Howard in the end because of competitive balance in the West.
     
  12. jopatmc

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    Lakers are contenders without a trade and are still contenders if they move both Bynum and Pau for Dwight.

    Just watch.
     
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    Houston isn't and won't even be an afterthought, he doesn't want to come here, and we don't compare to other potential offers.
     
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    He has room to improve but so did Dwight when he came out, I just think Griffin is a much better overall player.

    DD
     
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    Howard's D will keep him a better player for at least this season and the next two, even if Griffin improves offensively like he has this year.
     
  16. plutoblue11

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    Too much risk in that, as Smith might can get a nice all-star or two in return, if he is talking Gasol and Bynum or Lopez and draft picks. Nothing is beating those packages, especially from Houston. Most of Houston players are gambles (and projects, except Lowry or Martin. Motiejunas doesn't equal the value of Bynum, Gasol, or even Lopez, it would be a risk that most Magic fans would not want to take. I would almost think that the team is thrown in the towel for the next few years.
     
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    Too bad the Clips don't need Howard.
     
  19. SPF35

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    this kid needs to focus on making free throws rather than making these list. But thats what htey do, just go find another star to cover their holes, started with lebron and his clutch issues taking to dwade(don't know why dwade did it), now this, melo, etc.
     
  20. jopatmc

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    He may want to stay here if we get him here when he realizes we are the only place that can give him supermax and the opportunity to play with DWill. Howard wants supermax and to play with DWill. DWill wants supermax and to play with Dwight. I believe the rest is posturing. If Dwight can't get on the same team as DWill with a supermax contract, then he wants to be traded to the Lakers and get supermax and play with Kobe.

    After thinking about it, it all makes sense, the rumors above included. Dwight definitely should prefer to team with Deron over Kobe, because of age and because Deron will run that PnR with him all night long and throw him the lob.

    So, here's how Morey can play it.

    IF...he can get Orlando to turn loose of Dwight at the deadline for Kyle, KMart, Scola, and Dally, then he makes the trade, taking back Hedo and Jameer or Duhon along with Dwight. This offer trumps Bynum alone for Dwight. It forces the Lakers to offer up both Bynum and Pau for Dwight and then they've got to get Dwight committed to signing an extension there. (I bet if that deal gets close to going down that Dwight starts fudging on signing an extension with the Lakers to try to force a trade to NJ.) So, if the Lakers dont' offer up both Bynum and Pau then I would think our deal trumps just Bynum for Dwight. And it trumps Lopez, expirings and a couple mediocre draft picks that are likely to be low lottery if they are even in the lottery.

    This leaves us with Dwight, Hedo, Jameer, expirings (Hasheem, Hill, Dragic, Flynn, TWill), and a couple lottery picks (Morris, Patterson) and a couple 2nd rounders (Chase, Parsons).

    Now, here's the real play. Morey tells Dwight that he can sign the max extension here and he can recruit his buddy Deron to come here but if Dwight expects to play with Deron in NJ, he'll have to walk away there and lose the extra money. And if he picks up his option without agreeing to an extension, Morey may trade him to the highest bidder, including the Lakers but not to Dallas or NJ or wherever Deron is playing. So, Dwight's incentive to get supermax and get to play with Deron is to get Deron say he's opting out and tell the New Jersey he is leaving so they will trade him to Houston. If we get Dwight for the above mentioned deal, then we can trade New Jersey a couple lottery picks (Patterson, Morris), plus our lottery pick if we go to the lottery after making the Dwight trade, plus our expirings and take back whatever trash New Jersey wants us to take out with Deron.

    Our risk is Dwight could walk away to New Jersey. If so, we've still got all our youngsters plus most likely our lottery pick, plus gobs of cap space to go after other players. We'll be fine, in no worse shape really in one year than we are now and probably in better shape. The advantage to Orlando is they've got a team already built:

    Lowry/Duhon
    Martin/JRich
    Ryan Anderson/Earl Clark
    Dally/Davis
    Scola/Davis

    The advantage to NJ is they get to rebuild on the fly with youngsters if they trade Deron with multiple lottery picks and lots of free agent cap space.

    The advantage to us....Dwight and DWill.
     
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