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Yao Needs To Be A Little More Selfish!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MASTERASIA, Dec 1, 2002.

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  1. MASTERASIA

    MASTERASIA Member

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    YAO NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE SELFISH!!

    YAO NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE SELFISH!!

    Yao only been taking only 26!! shots in the last five games including this game and not counting his foul shot! That's a horrendous low 5 per game for a player shooting over 60%!!

    I understand Yao is a nice guy and doesn't like hogging the ball but he got to realizes that other guys don't give a **** cause they don't want to loose their jobs so they will take as many shot as they can and it the end, they will have 15points on a very deceiving 7/20 shooting.

    Screw the team if they are hogs and can't shoot! I don't care if Yao is a rookie but he's better then most of the other guys on the team. The only way for Yao to improve fast is to take more shots and experiment with his shots and i mean like at least 10per game.

    Imagine Yao shooting 15 shots a game. He could easily average 20points per game base on his percentage.

    Peace
     
  2. DavidS

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    I feel your pain. But, I happen to agree with the way that Rudy is using
    Yao right now.

    Could he give Yao the ball more? Yes. But Yao needs to learn the system,
    defense and his teammates.

    Because if we just dump it down to Yao every time, we will getting into
    that one-man show, that we used with Hakeem so much in the past.

    This would be a waste of talent; Francis and Mobley and Griffin
    would be standing around watching Yao. We don't want that.

    The end goal should be a TEAM. Not a one man show. The only time you
    need to go one-on-one is when you HAVE TO. Not just because you CAN.
    Learn the other stuff first. Strengthen your weaknesses.
     
  3. gotoloveit2

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    Please enlighten me. So if Rudy is using Yao correctly. May I ask what system is Yao learning. I am definitely without a clue.
     
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    now the Rockets system is one man show. YaoMing should learn it?
    Rudy has totally lost the control of the one man show. Maybe he likes it?
     
  5. MASTERASIA

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    I'm not saying Yao should be taking all the shots! I'm saying right now the main Man to go to is Francis and Yao and whomever after that.

    I understand they are letting Yao developing slowly but as a number one pick and so far his shooting been phenomenal, why isn't he getting more shots?

    I'm just sick of seeing guys jacking up shots and missing every night and keeps on shooting and missing.
     
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    I dont' really care if it's a one or two man show if we are winning. Usually it's a one man show or two that wins games and championship. ei, Lakers, Chicago, Orlando, San Antonio, etc.
     
  7. DavidS

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    gotoloveit2, do you honesly think that basketball is to just
    go into the game and start jacking up shots?

    man-on-man
    defense sets
    screen and rolls
    pick and rolls
    help defense
    weakside
    strong side
    switch defense
    back-door plays
    boxing out
    assignments
    alternate assignments
    switch man on mismatches

    The list goes on and on...
     
  8. SA Rocket

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    So even though Yao has proven his ability to pass out of the low post to the correct teammate(with the best open shot) and he has proven he can even dish in traffic to teammates cutting through the lane, and even though those wide open non-shooters continue to clank away and those cutters continue to act surprised that you're allowed to pass in the lane and fumble away Yao's passes, Rudy wants to make sure Yao knows it's better to keep trying to make role players into stars than to take matters into your own hands when your teammates aren't cutting it. Yao could easily get a shot himself and/or get to the line and learn to carry a team like the franchise player everyone hopes he is, but Rudy would rather he defer to teammates who are clearly not playing well?? :confused: :rolleyes:
     
  9. DavidS

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    Do you want to know the funny part?

    Yao has made about three or four passes in the last three games,
    OFF OF TEAMMATES HANDS/HEADS/BACKS.

    They aren't used to a player that can actually pass to them.
    They don't even realize they are open themselves, but Yao
    some how makes them open.

    There have been a lot of "my bads" coming out of player mouths
    to Yao lately. :D
     
  10. SA Rocket

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    DavidS.....that's exactly our point! That's exactly what Rudy is allowing players like KT and Mooch to do over and over again, even when it's obvious they can't make those shots! And he rewards them by giving them MORE playing time. If Rudy is going to run an offense where he lets his players just "jack 'em up", then why not let your best shooters be the ones doing most of the jacking up-----Steve and Yao. Not all these other wanna be's.
     
  11. gotoloveit2

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    Please, I knew all those things when I was playing intramural games 20+ years ago. I am sure Yao has learnt these since his early teen. I wanna know what Rox system is Yao learning now. So far, I only saw "jacking up shots" by his teammates as you put it. I think Yao learn more by pumping iron in a gym than out there.
     
  12. DavidS

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    Wow, you should be in the NBA then.

    It must be an easy game to play then, huh?

    I guess the experience you learn as a teen is all you need to learn, huh?

    Yao must have learned how to be a mind reader in his teens. :rolleyes:
     
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    I swear Hawkins has blown like 3 very easy POINT BLANK layups this year that would have given Ming an assist.
     
  14. DavidS

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    Heh heh...well, yeah.

    I wasn't defending those players.

    I was talking about Yao.
     
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    Yao would eventually get his share of shoots. Don't worry.
     
  16. rickn

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    Just look at the success that we had when we threw it down low. Yao doesn't have to shoot it all the time, but the ball does need to go down low first or the majority of the time. This will usually cause a double team and will also start ball movement. I GOD we all know that the Rocket's need its. One more thing, MTaylor need to start at PF.
     
  17. reptilexcq

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    I agree, why didn't Rudy T expand Yao repertoire. Did anyone EVER see Yao take a shot from the 15 feet line? Why does he ALWAYS have to post up and create his own shot? It's like the Rockets won''t let him shoot from outside but only post up, i am sick of seeing that. I mean he's a hell of a shooter and should be taking shots like Chris Webber did from 15 feet. The Rockets players suck when it comes to shooting the ball. THey can't even defend themselves and turnover the ball for no reason. Nobody guard Yao when he's open around the 15 feet line and yet he's not taking the shot, WHY WHY? He's a hell of a shooter, why didn't Rudy T tell him to shoot it? Instead the ball were moving around and let some other crappy players that can't shoot a lick. It's time to expand Yao's game and stop babysitting the guy...geez!! If you allow Yao to shoot from outside, that would be another threat for the opponent to guard and i would bet that would increase the Rockets' field goal percentage because most of the ROckets' players can't shoot. The Rockets' style of play also does not fit for Yao Ming's game. It's like they have to pause and think about it whenever they're going to the post instead of doing it naturally. And they should not start Hawkins and Griffins, the people on King's radio were saying the same thing, Hawkins suck. They should go to Ming more often.

    Also i agree with the topic that Yao needs to stop being too conservative and be more aggressive in terms of demanding the ball more and wanted to take the shot. He had to realize most of the Rockets players aren't as good a shooter as him and he need to take charge and start shooting more. I am sick of seeing him pass the ball to a guy in the post and running over to the other side and just stand there and wait. That's just too conservative.

    There are too many problems with the ROckets team beside not using Yao's game probably. First, the Rockets have no chemistry, 2nd, they can't play defense, 3rd, they're not smart, 4th, they're not discipline enough, 5th, they don't play with fire other than Francis. It's one thing to turn the ball over, it's another when the Rockets turning it over unforcefully.
     
  18. DavidS

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    That was my worry at the start of the season. I DID NOT want Yao
    to become an outside shooter.

    I wanted him to learn the inside game and how it relates to your teammates.
    He has passing ability better than Hakeem (passing out of the post).

    He must work on his weaknesses, first. The inside post.

    Working on your weaknesses in practice is not good enough. You must
    do them against real completion.
     
  19. ruyun5

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    This team needs lots of work. Kings just played so much better than the Rockets as a team.

    1. Turn Overs. Kristie and Bobby Jackson are going for every rocket bad pass. Our guards kept making them. Kings outscore Rockets over 20 points off TO.

    2. Rebounds. Why do I feel Kings can jump higher than Rockets for those offensive rebounds.

    3. No answer for C Webber. Yao had a nice block on him though.

    4. Motionless offense, often lead to turn overs and force bad shots. Yao need to take more shots himself. Kings guards got a few steals anticipating Yao will likely to pass. Kings's offense flows so much silky. Most of their shots come from uncontended player.

    5. Am I the only one feeling rockets players are sleeping on the court? Maybe a little tired on the end of the 5-day roadtrip?
     
  20. gotoloveit2

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    I dont claim to be a NBA coach, nor could you. It didnt take a genius to see how bad is our offensive flow. I have seen enough college and NBA games over the years to know what a good game supposed to be. All the stuff you listed above are nothing new. They are all fundamentals that most good college players know already. Dont misunderstood me. I never imply Yao should get and shoot the ball every single time he post down low. I just dont think Rudy is doing a good job in bringing Yao into the offense of the team. When you see a big man running down on a fast break not being awarded, or being ignored when posted down low. Those are obvious things that dont take high IQ to understand. Either Rudy suks or he lost control of his team.
     

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