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Drug Laws in China

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by giddyup, Nov 29, 2002.

  1. giddyup

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    My brother-in-law works in the furniture industry and has been traveling to China every quarter. Yesterday he told the story of his recently concluded trip to China.

    While there, the Chinese officials convicted 5 men of dealing drugs. The city where this occurred closed school for the next day and brought all the school children into the stadium instead.

    The Chinese officials marched the 5 convicts out to the center of the stadium and shot each of them in the head. In short order, they marched every one of those school children past those bloody bodies while warning them "Don't deal drugs; this is your future..."
     
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    Is this supposed to be a good thing?
     
  3. Sonny

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    That is an extreme version of our "This is your brain on drugs" commercials...
     
  4. DrewP

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    Ya, the whole egg thing worked fine with me...
     
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    I am betting even with the harsh penalties, there still are more drug users in china than in the States.
     
  6. Sonny

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    Well divide that number by 4 and then see what it looks like. :D
     
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    First , any proof of what u said or u just made them all up
    second, United States is the biggest drug market in the world means the most Drug users !!!!!
     
  8. fatfatcow

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    I mean look at how many crack head there is in US n crack dont even exist in China !!!
     
  9. giddyup

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    My brother-in-law just got back from China 2 weeks ago. This event happened while he was there. He has no reason to lie. I know he didn't witness it, but I can't say for certain that someone did not lie to him... although I doubt it.
     
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    Hey fatfatcow, couple of things to mention. First, this board likes proper spelling, no net lingo. It helps us weed out the seventh graders. Next, what do you mean that crack doesn't exist in China? If I took crack to China what would it turn into? I think it is kind of strange how you ask our first poster to prove himself (which he should) but then you say that crack doesn't exist in China without proof. I can assure you, crack does exist in China. There is nothing like sitting down in Shanghai with ........... Well, that story is for another time.....
     
  11. fatfatcow

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    i can assure u crack is not known in China n many other places in the world as it is not a poplular drug as heroin and cocaine in the world as it is in america cuz its a new kind of drug i will try to search for some link to prove my point.
    And do i have to proof that U.S is the biggest drug market or this is a well known fact..!!
     
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    Oh, my bad man.....

    Lord, Save Me!
     
  13. DrewP

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    Ok so they have cocaine, but not crack? "Crack" is the street name given to cocaine that has been processed from cocaine hydrochloride to a free base for smoking. ........Rather than requiring the more volatile method of processing cocaine using ether, crack cocaine is processed with ammonia or sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and water and heated to remove the hydrochloride, producing a form of cocaine that can be smoked..... The term "crack" refers to the crackling sound heard when the mixture is smoked (heated), presumably from the sodium bicarbonate..... So , are you saying they dont have ammonia or baking soda in China? I call bull**** on you.
     
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    He says from experience... :)
     
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    Cocaine is produced from the plant Erythroxylum coca, which is native to South America. Clearly, the easiest market for South American Coca growers is the US. It is much more difficult to get the Coca to SE Asia.

    BUT,

    SE Asians have their own, more dangerous version of Cocaine. In the United States, the dangerous and difficult production of methamphetamine salts, aka crystal meth, is a second tier problem of drug production.

    For many SE Asian countries such as Thailand, however, methampetamine production has surpassed opiates (traditionally the #1 drug of abuse) as the primary problem. In case you aren't familiar with meth, it's basically functionally similar to cocaine, but with a much longer half-life, and a greater tendancy to produce psycosis as a result of binge consumption. If you want a good idea of what meth can do, feel free to rent the film Salton Sea.

    Meth was discovered by chemists in Japan, and after the end of WWII, Japanese adiction rates were incredibly high (no pun intended). Meth is relatively easy to make with red phosphorus (from match sticks), ephadrine (from cold medicines), and ammonia, though the process is incredibly volitile and gives off the smell of cat urine.

    Siteing the limited nature of drug addiction and (until recently) the limited spread of AIDS in China as a positive of the oppressive government is like pointing to the reduced population density which results from a catastrophic earthquake as a reason why it is good. I've come to believe that, through it's history, the governments of mainland China have been among the most oppressive, jingoistic, and self-serving. Clearly, China is the expression of the will of the ethnic Han peoples. Other ethnic groups who live within their borders are clearly given second-class status, and have been all the way back to the point that the Mongols were kicked out.

    History in the west attempts to deptict Europeans a self-centered imperialists who have seen the Chineese as a lower peoples. While in most cases this is true, it obscures the fact that throughout history, the Han/Chineese have viewed all others with the same type of contempt! Chineese are inherently distrustfull of everything that doesn't originate in China, and this includes thing like governments that allow personal freedoms, and consider the rights of the individual to be more important than the rights of the state.

    It is clear that drug problems are much lower in China, just as they used to be in the Soviet Union, but at what cost? IMHO, the cost of democracy and freedom and all of those other nice things is that people are going to have a greater freedom to do unhealthy or self-distructive things, but that's the beauty. People are given their own freedom to choose, and as in nature, the people who choose the most effective ways of life are rewareded.
     
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    Crack is made from cocaine but is totally different thing crack is cheap n for the poor drug abuser n cocaine is for upper class drug abuser, crack is maybe at least 10 times less the cost n it is not known in China or poplular .
    Ottomaton, very sad that how u see China but everyone's view n value is different so i can't changes it , i think u can read alot of books about a country but its nothing like it actually being there n see it yourself. For example an american may think that a home without tv is below standard but a chinese farmer that live without tv n still be a happy man cuz tv to him was never a standard of living , so everyone valus is different .
    (((Chineese are inherently distrustfull of everything that doesn't originate in China, and this includes thing like governments that allow personal freedoms, and consider the rights of the individual to be more important than the rights of the state. ))))
    What u said here is only your opinion n your belief, n do u really think Chinese never had any personal freedom n the idea of personal freedom is coming from the west or something???!!!
    i mean democracy is good but doesnt mean the communist China is bad n its people has no freedom .
     
  18. giddyup

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    You know what else? My brother-in-law told another story. He was touring this plant under construction. This mason was building a brick wall.

    This guy (maybe all of China, who knows?) would stack bricks using spacers. Then he would push mortar in from the sides-- a very time consuming way to lay bricks.

    My brother-in-law showed him how to "butter" the top brick with mortar and lay down another brick.

    The mason looked at him in bewilderment and said, "Do again!" An ah-ha moment.

    Sorry, no link....

    <b>Elvis</b>: I do have a problem with the schoolkid parade.
     
  19. dimsie

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    You know, it's been my experience that bricklaying techniques can tell you *so much* about a society.
     
  20. giddyup

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    Okay, smarty-pants...
     

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