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Forget Mario or perhaps even Foster, should the Texans just load up on receivers?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by meh, Dec 28, 2011.

  1. meh

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    Not 100% serious, but isn't it kind of disturbing how easy it is to just win based on passing all the time now? NE, GB, NO, Detroit, Giants... it seems that with the new officiating rules passing is the most efficient path to winning. You can get away with both defense AND running game as long as you can pass, because the rules make it impossible for defenses to stop the passing game.

    The Texans will still have a solid defense without Mario. And while Tate isn't Foster, he can grind out enough yards okay. And you can always sign/draft a solid back who can catch some passes. But I really think the "moneyball" play right now is to take advantage of how nerfed pass defenses are and load up on good/great receivers. Just look at how Watt gets killed for daring to tackle Dan Orlovsky. Or how corners can get PI by touching the receivers. I think you gotta take advantage of the officiating trend to reach the next level.
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    If you let Mario walk you could probably sign two good WR's.
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Those teams you mentioned dont have a ton of good wr's - its all about the schemes and qb.
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    this is a good point, with the exception of GB. That being said, GB has been able to find WR gems in the mid-late rounds of the draft.
     
  5. marks0223

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    Foster is vital to the passing game and Tate appears to be a zero there. We know Schaub doesn't have the strongest arm so having someone that can turn a short pass into a big gain is key.
     
  6. meh

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    You honestly believe that schemes and QB can allow teams that rank last and 2nd to last on defense, as well as below average run game, to be 1st seeds in both conferences? When was the last time anything remotely close to such a thing happened?
     
  7. AbbasNasib

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    Don't know about not bringing back Mario and/or Arian. But the Texas HAVE to bring two or three talented receivers via the draft and free agency. One of which will need to have the assets to be a potential #1 down the road.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    I honestly have no idea why we pay JJ and KW what we do. OD and Foster are the two most important non-QB components of our offense, yes, even more important than AJ. Not more talented, mind you, but more important. Hell, I'd even put Dreessen ahead of JJ/KW.
     
  9. meh

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    Jacoby needs to be cut for sure. If Walter doesn't kill our cap for releasing him, then he should be cut or at least restructure his contract. If our offense had 3 legit receivers we may be the most dangerous offense in the entire NFL. Schaub may not be Brady or Rodgers, but with better receiving group plus play-action, he could be nearly as effective.
     
  10. AbbasNasib

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    Can't agree with you on KW. The guy's sure hands have been one of the few things to count on through this offense's injury riddled season.

    KW is a solid receiver, but it gets kind of flaky after him and AJ. I think he'd be very good rotating the 2nd and 3rd receiver position with a better qualified WR than JJ.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    His contract was pretty front loaded, and coincidentally that is when he was producing like a solid #2. Now he's kind of lost a step and disappears for games at a time. If he gets open, he does catch everything that comes near him, though.
     
  12. v3.0

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    You have to realize why a team like the Packers, Saints, and Patriots are at the bottom of total defense and passing defense but middle of the pack in run defense.

    Most teams are playing catch up to them and what do teams do when playing catch up? They pass more often then run. Not saying those 3 teams' defense is all that (Patriots' D is pretty bad), but in this age of NFL rules siding with the offense, yards will be accumulated by any decent passing offense.

    Back to back 4,000yds plus seasons before this season, what's your definition of "nearly as effective"?
     
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    Kevin Walter brings a lot to the table beyond just his pass catching. He's a good blocker. I have no problem with him on the team again next year, hopefully on a reduced cap number. Jacoby is the one that needs to go. He's paid way too much to be a mediocre wide receiver and a good punt returner.

    #2 WR followed by general depth (secondary, DL, LB, OL) are the things this team needs to address.
     
  14. Pete the Cheat

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    You could see somone like Michael Floyd slip down boards because of off the field issues, and Dwight Jones or Kendall Wright would be an upgrade at the position as well.


    also...hopefully LeStar Jean materializes into a vertical threat next year.
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    Yep; that's why this talk of getting a "legit" #2 receiver is sometimes overblown. I agree with DM - Walter does get lost much too often and looks like he has lost a step. But he's doing *something* right because he's been here 5 years and they've never so much as sniffed trying to find a replacement.

    Again, everyone needs to remember: it's not AJ's absence; it's Schaub's, too. When healthy, this is a top-5 passing offense.
     
  16. Pete the Cheat

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    I think the issue is more along the lines of grooming a future #1 while AJ still has a few more years left in the tank.
    While that will mostly likely never fill the shoes AJ leaves behind, you still have to find a suitable replacement at some point.

    on a side note, I REALLY hope the Rams draft Blackmon ahead of the Jags. I would hate to have to play against that guy for the next 10 years...
     
  17. DonkeyMagic

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    I think Juron Criner would be a great late round get. He'd be a guy i'd be interested in having here. His 40 time isn't amazing but he plays faster...he routinely makes bit plays down the field, has great hands and very good size.
     
  18. AbbasNasib

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    IMO, it's not about getting a 'legit #2.' More so getting guys who can run crisp routes and create separation. I'd like to see an offense with no clear #2. Just a solid WR lineup where any of which can light you up on a given night.
     
  19. sammy

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    Kendall Wright.
     
  20. Svpernaut

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    Our first two picks in the draft should be WR and Corner. There really isn't a reason to go sign a big-name WR when we have AJ, who will hopefully stay healthy next season.
     

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