Martin knows he must get in the flow of Rockets’ offense

Kmart said it all, Mchale didn't know his game and tried to make him Kyle Korver and Jason Kapono. Kmart isn't Ray Allen, as his stats show he isn't a lights out shooter you set screens for and have him take open shots at the 3.That's more tailored for Courtney Lee.

He's someone who needs to always get the ball in transition and attack the basket, so even when his shot isn't falling he can still contribute big time.

 

This is an issue because you don't change the entire offense for Martin. Either Martin needs to adjust or McHale has to meet him somewhere in the middle.

 

It's been 1 game. Calm down people.

 

KMart will be back with a 25 point game. One game does not change the fact that he is an elite offensive player in this league.

 

I couldn't disagree with you more.

Right now, McHale doesn't have an offensive scheme. What we saw last night was street ball which doesn't fly in the NBA. We just don't have the talent to pull it off. McHale needs to come up with a system that lets players utilize thier strengths. Thats on him, not on Martin.

Trying to change Martin into a different player isn't going to work. He is, what he is.

Furthermore, I think our offense is going to end up being very simplistic and predictable. I think coach McHale's strengths are to develop Patterson and Hill into good players. I don't think he is going to be a good X's and O's coach at all, like Adelman was.

 

The offense may have changed, but this is on KMart. Unless Kevin told him to jack 3 pointers, there's no reason Kevin couldn't have been more aggressive driving and looking for contact.

From what I saw, Kevin looked timid and out of sorts. This may be because he is confused with the offense, which is fine... but doesn't speak to a problem with the offense itself.

Even with no offensive system, he's an NBAer and should play his game. As noted, he had good looks at the 3 that he just missed. But he also had opportunities to drive that he didn't take.

Hopefully he can just play his game as his game and McHale's offense begin to mesh. Obviously, if not, you'd hope to get some decent value in return for him. Also, if not, maybe DM saw it coming, and that's another reason why Kevin was on the block. Not that he's played with a ton of coaches, but if DM had some analysis that showed Martin's game relied on a system more than we expect, he might have wanted to move him. I don't think that's the case, but you never know.

 

I think that's a stretch. The team shot horribly. And that could be a function of the offense. But they still assisted on 26 of 36 FGs (great numbers), and protected the ball well.

Like I noted with KMart, there were good, open 3's he missed. If that's the sign of a bad offense (players missing open shots they normally make), than I'll take McHale's bad offense.

That said, I think Adelman's offense will certainly prove to be more fluid. But Martin and Budinger shot the team out of the game. Combined 2-15, and 0-9 on threes.

As much as people love Adelman, even considering his great winning % with the team, absent a healthy Yao, they were just an average team with a good offense. See a bucnh of other average teams.

The bigger issue with the game yesterday was defensively, which you hoped to have improved. Still a very early season, but 53% opponent FG%, with >40% from 3... that's not good. Coincidentally, KMart and Bud (and co) also lost the game defensively there, as Hedo, Reddick and Richardson were extremely efficient.

 

I'm a little confused, McHale should adjust his entire offense, as simplistic as it maybe, to get Martin going however in the end the offense will be simplistic and he will develop the inside guys? So what will happen to Martin?

While I think coaches should compromise their approach to make the team better and his players fit in, Martin is so one dimensional that I'm not sure how much McHale should mold his offense around Kevin.

 

McHale is no Adelman and it will take some time for the team to adjust to his plays and slight changes in his offense

 

Kind of how I see it too, focused on the bigs and trying to coach them up to what he knows.

I read an article once that talked about great players not being all that great at coaching because they were able to do things that most players could not do and thus struggled trying to understand why regular players were not able to do what they did.

Whereas role player or average players made better coaches because they had to learn details in order to really succeed in basketball.

Seemed to make sense.

DD

 

So is this genuine Martin?
Or PR stunt Martin.

 

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Won't be the last time these words are heard this season....

 

Yea, but you won't hear anybody say they miss his defense.

 

Martin said he played like a Kyle Korver or Jason Kapono type of player, but he never said anything about McHale making him play that way.

The team may not have been running highly effective sets, but they were taking care of the ball and moving it well enough. Martin could and should have found more opportunities to be aggressive and at least work his way to the line.

 

martin needs that high post set though, he thrives on those cuts....without them he is not as special as a scorer.

I think Morey knew that and it was one of the reasons he was being traded.....still should be IMO.

Fools gold you know.

DD

 

With McHale coaching, I think we need a more playmaking wing rather than a off the ball type scorer.

I really think we should call up Philly and ask them if they are still interested in a Martin for Iguodala swap. Iggy has one more year on his contract than Martin but is basically paid the same.

Lowry/Iguodala/Budinger/Scola/Dalembert is a better lineup for McHale then Lowry/Martin/Budinger/Scola/Dalembert.

 

I really think its time we all step off the Iggy idea, its been two years people have been saying it, and there has never been any real indication we could get him. Pointless to talk about.

 

Morley hired Mchale so we will be in a higher position in the lottery. Adelman would have over coached our group into the playoffs.

 

Did you come up with that prediction after one game? I guess you predicted we were tanking last season after starting 0-5 right?