If this has been posted feel free to lock. But has the deadline for picking up their options been passed yet? If not any rumblings on whether we're keeping anyone beyond this year?
I'd like to know this as well since it affects our cap for 2012. But can't find anything besides it has been postponed indefinitely. Does anyone have anything on this?
I had originally thought that the October 30 deadline was extended until December 25 (the equivalent delayed date for the start of the regular season), but I recently learned that the actual deadline isn't until mid-January. This gives teams a better opportunity to evaluate their young players since they didn't have a summer league or full training camp to do so.
They would be crazy to pick those options up. Flynn, Thabeet, Hill and T-Will make way too much. Decline now, if we like any then sign them up cheaper in 2012 as FAs.
Flynn and Thabeet will be declined for sure. I'm iffy on the other two but I say we exercise the options on Hill and T-Will.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. It seems that T-Will and J-Hill with their early performances, could be worthy of an extension.
No chance we pick up the option on Thabeet unless he starts beasting early on. Doubtful with Flynn. Hill and T-Will can earn it since they should be in the rotation.
Yeah... I'm pretty sure they aren't going to extend anyone. On the free agent market Houston has the home team discount anyway. The only way we lose is if one of these players has a b****in breakout season and we end up keeping them for more than what they were worth next year. But again, next season we're looking at having 25 million in cap room and the freedom to sign who we want back. Like, lets say we only get 1 max player next off season (or during the season this year). Which means we can choose to keep Dalembert for his second year and maybe keep 1 or 2 of the other young guys. That's like 9 players on the roster right there without factoring in next years picks. Obviously the dream would be if we traded for a starting 3 (Iggy for example), this year or during the offseason. And then went on to finish the season in 7th or 8th. Suddenly someone like Dwight Howard might look at this line-up and thing we have good odds to be competitive in the next few years with Lowry, Scola and Martin and sign with us.
They're the only two that have produced/shown signs of being able to produce for us. I can't see Thabeet or Flynn getting enough PT to even prove whether they're worthy or not of an extension.
Also... I can't see Thabeet improving enough to validate his 6-7 million dollar option. Really the only way we get screwed over by not doing this is if one of these players has a breakout year (like... "most improved player" kind of break out, not just "good enough to be in the rotation" break out).
Hill is worth 3.6+M & Williams is worth 3.1+M ...BUT... Thabeet at 6.5+M & Flynn at 4.3+M - no thanks at half the price thought ~ - Greg Smith at less than 1M per over 4 years being cut so Thabeet and Flynn can have a spot. The math just is not there. - Lee needs to be signed as well he will start around 16.5 over 3 years or more IMO (Lowry). - How much for Budinger and Dargic they are due, too. - Picking up Pat Patterson for 2.+M is a no brainer.
Well, it depends on what is meant by "worth". Certainly they are performing up to a 3 million dollar contract just because they are rotation players. But the risk you are taking here is that the 3 million we spend on Hill or Williams... it might end up being the money we need to trade/sign for a star or two next offseason. So yeah we can spend 6 million on those two and an extra two on PPat... but it adds to 8 million and now instead of having 30 million under the cap we're talking about 22 million, which is a max player and maybe another decent player to go with that (instead of 2 max players and a like an MLE deal if we let everyone go. So honestly, I think the good way to go about it is to just reject all of the options (other than perhaps PPat because 2 million for him for 2 more years is just rediculous) and try your hardest to compete this season... maybe making a deal at the deadline for someone like AI . In the offseason you make your pitch to one of the big FAs. I know it sounds like the same spiel again where we were trying to acquire Bosh. But the reason going after Bosh didn't work was because we were forced to actually trade with Toronto to get him. Now we can straight up sign people... makes everything different. And if we can make the playoffs with a roster whose core talent makes up only 30 million in salary... imagine how good the team could be capped out? And realistically other than getting traded to LA or something like that, there are only a few teams that will actually have money under the cap next season.
And Lee, Buddinger and all those guys are probably gone if they are looking for 5+ million dollar deals. I mean, if we completely flop in the FA pool then sure we can take them back... but it's a no brainer really. We can either spend 10-15 million on 3 people of Lee/Biddinger caliber or we can spend 10-15 million on 1 guy that's on the level of Kevin Martin or even better than that.
CP3 is a Clipper and Howard will be a Net. Tell me who we are "Cleaning house" for? The draft is the only way we will get a true star player here in Houston, IMO. There is a real chance we may not even have a pick this year. (NY pick is top 3 portected (see David Stern and the trade that wasn't) and if / when we make the play-off's (Dalembret signing) the NJ Nets gets our pick from the T-Will trade). I think we should hold on to what is "worth" holding on to for the right price. One thing we know is Flynn and Thabeet are gone. I don't think Budinger or Dragic are coming back, ethier.
