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Apple being Apple

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Air Langhi, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Go to amazon. Every company does. If you pay full price for a phone it should be unlocked.
     
  2. wakkoman

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    :)

    If you really look at the relationship between the US carriers and the manufacturers, Apple seems to have much more control over them than any other handset maker.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    That's what I was thinking too, having an iPhone that works on both CDMA and GSM would be godly though. I imagine they only sell the GSM variety because of the fact their original contracts were with GSM providers, so their personal stock of unlocked iPhones are built for those networks.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Absolutely. Apple are control freaks. This has both good and bad consequences. The good being they don't let carriers muck up their products too much, the bad being when they kick in your door at 2AM and steal your computer because you obtained information about their latest product release.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Nobody is entitled to an unlocked phone simply because they paid full price. You are entitled to a phone without a contract, that's all. If the carriers demanded Apple lock the phones they purchased from them to be carrier specific, you expect Apple to balk at that and kill their contract? Come on, man.
     
  6. wakkoman

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    Well of course I can buy the phone online because it becomes more of a global marketplace, and internationally, unlocked phones are readily available.

    But if I go into the T-Mobile store and buy any phone for the full non-subsidized price, I won't be getting the unlocked version. At least I don't think I can. I could be wrong though.
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    By the time you want to switch carriers you'll end up getting the newest iPhone anyways right?
     
  8. srrm

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    I disagree because this is one of my pet peeves as well. I think you're peeved about it backwards.
    How is the least amount of caring still significant? Least amount of caring is the bottom of the scale.

    * I couldn't care less * means you are at the minimal level of caring about the subject; this is the correct usage.

    *I could care less * means you are at a level of caring that is not the minimum. If you truly didn't care, you would be at the minimal level of caring which is what the first phrase is saying.

    The phrase itself is not ambiguous, rather people have become lazy with its usage because they couldn't care less about the correct usage.
     
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  9. DonnyMost

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    Yes, but the bottom of your personal scale does not imply zero, or even a low number. For me, I couldn't care less about the Rockets. And by that I mean I am at 100% caring and am unable to care any less than that.

    My point is that the letter of the statement is not important, as they are both able to interpreted to mean other than what is intended, so correcting someone is a waste of time, as neither usage is wrong.
     
  10. Harrisment

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    That's it. It's one of my pet peeves as well. Drives me crazy.
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Donny's argument is that both are implying apathy towards the subject in question.

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  12. Harrisment

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    Yes they both imply apathy, because people know what you're trying to say. It's just that one way of saying it is wrong :)
     
  13. rhadamanthus

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    ^^^^For the record, yes, that is a graphical illustration of the grammatical terms *could* and *could not* as it relates to caring. I love the internets.
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    If you pay full price they will give you the unlock code or at least they used to. Secondly when you put an att sim in there after unlocking the phone will work unlike apple.
     
  15. rhadamanthus

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    Hrmph - I see your point. And Donny's. Well, I could care less.

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  16. KaiSeR SoZe

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    i don't see how this is apple's fault. why not just get the apple version from apple store if you want it fully unlocked instead of buying a subsidized phone.

    It'll run you $649 instead of $199 but that's your prerogative.

    I don't think issue is Apple's fault rather the carriers.
     
  17. srrm

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    See that's where the discrepancy is: you could care less about the Rockets but you choose not to.

    The difference in our approach is that imo a personal scale of caring is fixed, and different subjects fall at different points on that scale. In your case, each subject has its own mini-scale.

    That's fine I guess, and is what causes the ambiguity.
    Obviously I think my way is correct, but I understand why you say both phrases are acceptable.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    It's not technically wrong, you just don't prefer/like it. There's a difference. And quite frankly, I could care less. And by that I mean I care 10%, but it is of so little importance to me I could manage to care even less than I already do. Which I think I will do now. Boom, 0% caring. Now I technically could not care less.
     
  19. Scionxa

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    This shouldn't surprise anyone.

    That's like buying a Galaxy S2 at retail price at an AT&T store and thinking it's unlocked because you paid full retail price. If you buy your phone at full retail price from a carrier store, the only real benefit you're getting is not being on contract.
     
  20. Harrisment

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    Yeah but people only use that term when they are trying to convey that they don't give a damn about the subject at hand. So why would you ever let someone know that you care about it at all?

    Ok, I'm done. :)

    Carry on fanboys.
     

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