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Cato should start again

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketjf, Nov 24, 2002.

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  1. rocketjf

    rocketjf Member

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    We shouldn't rush ming after 2-3 good games.

    He can learn better just come off bench, and play 2 quaters a game. He was lost again today in offensive, didn't battle at all for his position, he still needs time to learn and adjust.

    Rudy needs put at least one center in the game, especially when Cato is playing pretty good so far.
     
  2. yao_fan

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    Agreed.

    Ming is not yet ready for starting yet. Every game he will play with NBA players he never saw before. I think he will learn something about those players if he observe them a couple of minutes on the bench.

    Each time we bring Ming in at the end of the first quarter or start of the second quarter he performed well.

    Just my two cents.
     
  3. Yetti

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    rocketjf:- I back you up 100% on that! The fact that there is still so much to learn,Yao Ming should come off the bench. To-day you could see how tired he was, resulting from the fact that Rudy overplayed him in the last Game. Let him take his baby steps from the bench and reduce his pressures!
     
  4. ZRB

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    I disagree. Yao just had an off night. We should start our best players. If the Rockets continue to play like they did against the Clips, we might as well start Ming, since we will be missing the playoffs again.

    But I don't really think that's going to happen. Yao will continue to start and be productive, and the Rockets will be the sixth seed or better.
     
  5. Uprising

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    from the thread on clip rock game.
     
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    One thing that bothered me was...where was Boki?!
    WHen a team is down and shooting is horendous (first 2 quarter) then dont u put in your other players giving them a chance to break out? There is always someone on a team who will do well when the team is down. I wanted to see some min for Boki. The only bit i saw of him today was on the sideline patting Rice for his 3s.
     
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    At this point I think it's too late. Starting him got a lot of pub. Now to to take it away would create a furor and could destroy his confidence. It doesnt really matter who starts anyways.

    The more subtle way to do it would be to play him less minutes. 35 minutes/game is way too much at this point.

    If they play smaller centers, they should play him more (30-35 minutes) and less against stronger,bulkier players (25-30 minutes).

    Once Olowakandi went on the bench, they shouldve gone to Yao more often.
     
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    NOT!

    Yao only took 4 shots.

    It was the other teammember that missed their shots.

    Griffin went 1-7, Hawkings 2-7, and Francis was 8-22 (Yao would not be
    proud of that!).

    Plus, the team missed 10 freethrows.
     
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    Even a bad game tonight from Ming gave us about what we can expect on a good night from Cato - solid rebounding and nice blocks.
     
  10. rocketjf

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    I don't think Ming care too much at this stage he starts or not. He even said himself that he would like to spend several minutes to study the other team before he gets into a game.
     
  11. topfive

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    Ming is starting because Rudy thinks he'd *mentally* ready to handle the pressure. As we've seen, this is no ordinary rookie.

    Hakeem and Ralph didn't come off the bench for a few months -- they were tossed right in there. I say leave Yao in and let him get used to it. He's a big boy, and I'm betting he can handle the pressure better than most rookies, given his temperment.
     
  12. Uprising

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    Thats what I mean by the Rockets should of brought in Boki and maybe even Tito. The teams terrible shooting, hurt us, made us lose, not yao, the TEAM's offense did. Well the game is over but rudy, IMO should have played some of the other guys.
     
  13. Raven

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    Taking YM in and out of the starting lineup, will crush his confidence, and probably turn him into a head case )

    Give YM a chance. Remember, he went up against a decent center today.

    Raven
     
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    Did he say that? If so, then It's like I and others have said. He should no start, and should come in a few min into the game, so He can see how the teams play (rocks and opponent) and then can take over. The rockets were forcing it to him trying to get some offense going. They should have started playing like they normally do, driving etc. and then when Yao is put in, they can utilize it around him, now that they already had a successful (hopefully) running offense.
    Yao doesnt know how all the teams run their plays, and how individual players play. Well, all he needs is time.
    I think he shouldnt be starting, not yet.
     
  15. yao_fan

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    This seems inline with Yao Ming's own comments from another thread.

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46215
     
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    cato should start

    yao is a smart player, but he is lack of nba experience. we should let him watch few mins of games and let him figure out what he should do on the court, then let him do the job.
     
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    given everything we have seen and heard about his attitude and approach to the game, how can you think his confidence is so fragile? He doesnt care what or where he is played ..he just wants to help the team win..I personally think you could play him 5 minutes a game..and he would still be ready to come in and contribute in whatever way he could..

    I agree with the other part of your post tho...Kandi has gotten better, and he was denying YM good position alot..I think that if they would have fed him more(even on the high post) he would have scored..he seems to have good range out to about 15 feet..
     
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    just yesterday u guys were saying YAO should be on the allstar team, u guys need to stick with one point of view. watch him have another 30 point game on the Bulls and u guys will be like ooooh. wooow. he is a future hall of famer. then hell have a 2 point game against the pacers, and u guys will say he sucks, he needs to be on the bench. DONT JUMP ON AND OFF THE BANDWAGON
     
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    Good point...Last season 4 points and 7 rebounds and whatever defensive presence he provided would have been a good game for Cato.

    Anyway, I think that Rudy should do whatever Yao is most comfortable with. If he has a few more rough games, sit him down and ask him if he would like to be eased in more slowly(Despite the awesome 30 and 16 he put up recently).

    If he says yes, let Kelvin start, and give Yao a good 15-20 minutes a night.

    If he says no, start him, but don't let him see more than 25-30 minutes.
     
  20. Rockets2K

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    and why would you make a blanket statement like that ?
    If you had been here for any length of time, you would know who was supporting YM from the beginning..there were alot of us..
     

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