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A tip:What's the difference between YAO and other chinese player?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by gowithwind22, Nov 22, 2002.

  1. gowithwind22

    gowithwind22 Member

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    What's the difference between YAO and other chinese player?
    People get the idea that chinese players are not good at team game,such as basketball,socceer,football,baseball.
    that's damn right! The reason is quiet funny and i am pretty sure many of ur guys may not know.
    ONLY THE BRAINLESSNESS GUY WILL BE CHOOSEN AS SPORTMAN IN CHINA B4.
    as i was in my elementary school. Only the students who are too bad in the acadamic record(they are too idiot),their
    parents and teachers will suggest him/her to persue a careeer as a sportsperson. For it seems they are "hopeless".
    Then they went to a kind of school called "sport school" which only provide some very elementary education, most of
    their time are focused on physical train. Most of them donot know what are SIN or COSIn in their whole life.
    If a person is not smart,it is ok for him/her play well in some indivadual
    game but not for team game which need players use their brain. for instatnace, basketball, A player must use some
    playing strategies when they are on the play field. they have to know how to play with their collegue as well.
    Most of these "stupid" players cannot work it out for their brainlessness.

    Yao is an exception. His parents are all member of the chinese national team(basketball) b4. After they married,
    the feredral goverment have PREDICATED their kid must be a talnet in basketball and ordering his parents
    that their kid MUST be a basketball player after he/she grown up. Meanwhile, goverment have provide them a special
    BURSARY which equal to a intermedia engineer can earn in that time since YAo have been born.

    YAO is quiet good at his acadamic history(among 50 people's class, he is the top 2 in his acadamic record.)
    In other words,he is quiet smart. He insist that he want to be educated in regular school other than that kind of
    "sport school" and he did. IF HE IS A REGULAR YOUNG BOY LIKE ME, HE WILL NOT BECOME A SPORTMAN.
    howeever, The goverment decision have change his life Eventually, and he is a sportman now.

    By the way, his original dream is a historian.
     
  2. DavidS

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    I do understand what you are talking about. Thanks.

    We have the same thing here in the USA. But, we cherish athletics over brains.
    It's a NCAA problem. And a sport agent problem.

    All motivated by $$$.

    But, that's ok. In 5 years, the top 10 draft picks will be mostly international
    players.

    You can keep your Iversons! No, thanks. :mad:
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Um ... Jordan allegedly paid a women who was pregnant not to get a paternity test and gambled illegally. Magic contracted HIV through sex with prostitutes. I think both were married at the time. Does that make Shawn Kemp your paragon of virtue?
     
  5. lynmon

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    yes.In China,Parents always think that: If their children want to be a famous man,or a successful person,they must study hard.When I studied in Middle School,playing basketball are not allowed.My parents told me:"You must study hard,or you won't enter good university in China,Like Tsinghua University.."
    And "Sports School" is a special school.Not all people study at the school are stupid.For example,Wang Zhizhi is also smart.The reason for choosing to study in "sports school" is that they are very tall.When Yao Ming was only 15 years old,his height is 2'10.My height--1'82,and I'm tallest of my class....So Yao and Wang were choosen to play basketball,not for stupid or other thing.
     
  6. DavidS

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    I don't care! You can keep your ass-wipe players of today!
    I'd take Isiah, Jordan, Magic, and Bird over most of todays!

    If you can't see the difference, then you're blind!

    :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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  7. Vengeance

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    Thanks for the fabulous information lynmon. Welcome to the BBS!!!
     
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    Yao is an exception. His parents are all member of the chinese national team(basketball) b4. After they married,
    the feredral goverment have PREDICATED their kid must be a talnet in basketball and ordering his parents
    that their kid MUST be a basketball player after he/she grown up. Meanwhile, goverment have provide them a special
    BURSARY which equal to a intermedia engineer can earn in that time since YAo have been born.
    This is not true . Yao ming didnt play b-ball until he was teenage and about most of the thing u said is incorrect .Dunno where u got your infomation from or u just made them up. ITs ridiclulous when u said the government predicted Yao must be a talent before he was born!!!?????



    I am a yao ming fan and now i am rocketfan as well
     
  9. lynmon

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    And there's something funny about the basketball players in China:
    MengKe Bateer,the player who's choiced by SPURS,was also a member of China National Basketball Team.
    When he was studied in primary school,his height was 1'75.he's only 9 at that time.

    In China,students in primary school must do exercise early in the morning.And at one time,a school leader came to watch students' exercise.When he saw Bateer,he say"Good!The teacher did very well."
    But others told him:"He's our student,MengKe Bateer."

    And the school leader can't say anything....
     
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    hello
    i'm also a chinese from Shanghai (yao's hometown). But I cant agree with what gowithwind22 had said.
    In china, people attend sport school because they are talented in sports, not because they are hopeless. The government will give allowance to these who attend the sport school, so if one is not talented, why the government should pay the money for him/her?
    Their low education because they have to pay more attention to their sports not academic.
     
  11. gowithwind22

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    As I known so far. Yao did play basketball in teenage as every child like us. But the point is he DIDNOT plan to persue a career as a proffessinal player in that very period of time.
    That's the differece. ur guy can try to write some words like "historian YAO" in chinese on a board and attend the event. And see what is his reaction, then u know.
    I am a person who disagree with the education system , no matter west or east world. I hate the test and donot think it can help to evalue a person's REAL skills. I am not try to say that the person who are not good at acadamic are stupid in every aspect. well, They are awarkward at logic part at least. I also want to emphasised that team game need the players have analysis capability in a dynamic enviroment.
     
  12. don grahamleone

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    There is no sport played that does not need thought to be played. The smarter a player is, the better they can use their talents. There are several different layers to being smart. I don't think much of people that are just book smart or just street smart. You need a combination of excellence to be sucessful. I really do not understand why you would make such a thread.

    We know Yao has a good basketball IQ and seems smart otherwise. Charles Barkley was the same way. So what's the point? Please extend your thread.
     
  13. Panda

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    First of all, welcome aboard. Fellow Chinese.

    With that said, I don't know what to make of this thread. It has too many holes to be plugged.

    1. The NBA players don't wow me with their intelligence. Frankly, some of them are just dumb, like that lovely moron Shaq. It must mean the same way goes for the USA, the dummies attend the sports. :rolleyes:

    2. Yao Ming's parents are Chinese. I guess they were hopeless dummies too?

    3. "ONLY THE BRAINLESSNESS GUY WILL BE CHOOSEN AS SPORTMAN IN CHINA B4".
    To say"only the brainless guys will be chosen as coaches in China" is more like it. See Wang Fei, and watch what that foeign coach's done for the national Soccer team.

    4. The Chinese women fare pretty well in team sports. The volleyball and soccer teams are examples. The Chinese Women do better than men with less resources in sports too. Don't know why, maybe it's because too many Chinese men are afraid of their wives.
     
  14. hardeji

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    Dude, time has jaded your memory. Sure, we all miss Bird and Magic and the Celts v. Lakers championships, but Jordan is still hobbling his pathetic ass around the league.

    Get on with life.... today's players are probably more talented and we've got Ming for the future. He's a good guy, as are guys like Duncan, Pierce, Bryant, Carter, Dirk, etc., etc., etc. Those guys are decent role models..... just as good as Bird or Johnson (better in my opinion).

    Oh yeah, regarding the mighty Isiah..... have you forgotten his famous line..... "If Bird weren't white, he'd just be another average player"...........quote after the Celts whipped Detroit in the playoffs.
     
  15. DavidS

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    Heh heh, it's obvious you're young. So, you have nothing to remember.

    Todays players are more athletic, not more skilled. They end up being
    projects for most of their careers because they come into the league so
    raw/young. Plus, they are pressured by the commercial media to push for flash over
    substance. Only until later in their careers do you start seeing some
    skill. You might say, what's wrong with that? Well, when that is all there's
    in the league, all you see is a bunch of athletic players that can do nothing
    but dunk (ooohhh! Ahhhhh! The crowd goes wild!). There are 30 excellent players
    today, IMO, but the rest lack much! Those 30 aren't the ones you are thinking
    of, either.

    Duncan is a great player. He did it right. He learned the game first.

    Take Cater out. Bryant is coming a long, but most of his career was flash (Shaq
    got him the rings), Dirk is an international player that learned the game the right
    way. Pierce is good. Ducan is the the man!

    You don't have to tell me about Yao, because I've been saying all along that this
    guy is going to be Rookie of the Year and and an All-Star THIS YEAR!
    Yao (not Ming) is Larry Bird, Tim Ducan, and Wilt in one player. And I'll go on a
    and say that's he better than Hakeem. I saw Hakeem play at U of H in 1983.

    Don't read to much in what I said about Isiah, Bird, Jordan and Magic. They represented
    what was best of the 80's and what was lacking during the 90's.
    Today, I'm very pro-international player, because they bring back the fundamentals of
    the old days. Tony Parker is one of my favorite players. Same with Dirk.

    And in the next few years more international player will be picked in the top 10
    draft and the game will improve because of it. We will get back to the "old school" in
    skill and "new school" in athletics. That's the best combination.
     
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    DavidS, I think you need to change your signature from

    "A future ROCKET BOXSCORE!!!
    Francis - 21pts, 10ast
    Mobley - 28pts, 2stl
    Griffin -- 15pts, 12rbs, 3bks
    Yao --- 14pts, 18rbs, 5bks, 5ast
    Nachbar - 10pts, 7rbs"

    to something more realistic:

    A future ROCKET BOXSCORE!!!
    Francis - 21 pts, 7 rebs, 7 asts
    Mobley - 18 pts, 4 asts, 2 stls
    Griffin -- 12 pts, 10 rbs, 4 blks
    Yao --- 22 pts, 14 rebs, 3 blks

    :)
     
  17. DavidS

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    Yeah :) It's just a boxscore just to *represent* a BALANCED TEAM.

    It could change it...

    But, you left out BOKI!!! :( He's going to surprise some people!


    P.S. I did make a change a week ago...

    I changed it from "Ming" to "Yao." Because, as you know. It's
    not proper to call him "Ming." :D :D :D
     
  18. hardeji

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    DavidS
    Do you go by Dave, or the more formal, respect-commanding "David"? Just curious.

    Actually, Dave, I was in college the same time that Bird and Magic were, and have been a pretty avid fan myself of college and pro ball. Some the venom you've expounded towards "todays players" has some meat in it. For the most part, it doesn't.

    Nobody likes the old matchups better than me. Please, however, be chase when gilding the "good old days" and "remember whens". Those good old days might not seem so good when pondered a bit more introspectively.

    Yeah, the early-outs have screwed up the college game bunches, but there are a lot of good players who have done there 4-year tour and are better because of it (Duncan, Martin, ???, ???). The true stars of the league (Kobe, Shaq, Kidd, Pierce, McGrady, Francis, etc., etc.,) either didn't go to college or served from 1 to 3 years in college. Too bad, too. That said, would you turn down $60 million at 18 or 19 years age? No, unless you're stupid. If the pro game lacks anything from years-gone-by, it's that there are so many teams that the league is diluted a bunch. That and free agency have messed up the old standard (a la baseball). Just remember, though, that yesteryear's teams played absolutely no "D" and average scoring was in the 120's. Today's game is harsher. Tougher.

    I too appreciate the newfound shooting skills of the international players and think they bring a fun dimension to the game (damned if some guys still don't have a jump shot with a perfect parabola).

    Take care.
     
  19. peleincubus

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    Do you think that is the reason that scores were so high back then i guess it is.
     

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