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What is basketball IQ?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Air Langhi, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Can someone please explain to me what basketball iq is?
     
  2. Dr of Dunk

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    It's what keeps talentless players in the league.
     
  3. LCII

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    Shane Battier is all IQ and no talent.

    Steve Francis was all talent and no IQ.

    Sometimes, you get a magical combination of talent and IQ - Kobe or MJ for example, and you win the championshipz.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Really? Do you play the game at all?

    It is fairly obvious when you are playing who understand what to do on offense and defense in a team oriented way.

    Personally, I love back door cuts, screen and rolls and pinpoint passing on offense.

    On D- helping out on picks, covering the hole on rolls, and forcing people into inefficient shots.

    BBall IQ is real, after more than 25 years of playing with good ball players, like Calvin Murphy, Pearl Washington, Allen Levell, Rodney McCray, the best BBall IQ I ever saw was Pearl Washington, that guy was amazing when he wanted to play...simply amazing.

    Here in Austin there is a guy who played at Baylor or was recruited rather but did not qualify that has great BBall IQ, I love playing with him....it is an easy game when BBall IQ players get on the same side.

    DD
     
  5. SPF35

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    Yea, it is an understanding, awareness of the game and attention to the detail. from the small tricks of the trade that vets have, to the footwork, timing, understanding the offenses, defenses, plays, and mentally being one step ahead of the opposition. It is literally something you have ot study and understand basketball like chess and see how the pieces move around and what makes what happen.

    Good examples are: John Stockton, Michael Jordan, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Hakeem, Larry bird(given he was probably the least gifted out of all of the above and accomplished so much is a testimony to his understanding, IQ, and commitment to building skill).
     
  6. meh

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    Due to how fast the pace of the game runs, a lot of things NBA players do come instinctively. There's not enough time to analyze the situation slowly like with most desk jobs. Some people are just better at this than others.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    What Steve Francis, Aaron Brooks, and Von Wafer don't have.
     
  8. DreamShook

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    Tmac has IQ and Talent no work ethic.
     
  9. VBG

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    Some players have an innate ability to pick the best pass and make the right decision given the overall situation.

    Players like Lebron, T-Mac, Magic, CP3, Steve Nash on the offensive end and Battier, Luol Deng on the defensive end seem to just know where the ball is going and where to be.

    IMO, the ultimate overall basketball IQ guy is Jason Kidd. Offensively and defensively.
     
  10. apollo33

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    Low basketball IQ means acting like a mentally challenged person on the court making r****ded and illogical decisions that would only cause your team to lose.

    defensively, see bargnani, low basketball IQ, doesn't move his feet, doesn't go on help d, gets completely lost on defensive rotations.

    Offensively, see Von Wafer

    Most players understand the game very well, but they just don't think when they play in a game. The thinkers usually have high basketball IQ. Some players just don't have the ability to think and play at the same time, a lot of it is natural. For example, me, when i play basketball, my mind goes pretty blank and i just play and therefore make lots of boneheaded decisions, but if you take me off the court, I can explain everything clearly.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    BTW - Charles Barkley described it as more "Quick thinking" than IQ, the ability to recognize things and act on them more quickly than others.

    DD
     
  12. coolweather

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    quick thinking is the result of having a good BB IQ.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Sort of, you can be a quick thinker and not able to see what is happening on the court.

    If you can see what is happening as it is developing, and react to it before most others, that is good BBall IQ.

    DD
     
  14. coolweather

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    if you're undersize and make great things happen on the court - get rebounds even if your inches shorter, and make plays even if you don't dribble the ball well, and score even if you're the last option, then you must have a very good bb iq.

    viva chuck hayes.
     
  15. coolweather

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    i definitely was not talking about thinking quickly where to get the best cheeseburger...
     
  16. VBG

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    I think it's almost like instinct.

    Von Wafer instinctively looks for his own shot. Steve Nash instinctively looks for the best play. Chuck Hayes instinctively knows where to be tot stop the Brandon Roy drive and get the charge. Kevin Martin instinctively knows what the defender will do so he can draw the foul.
     
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    true, and it keeps some extremely talented players out of the league.. i.e. Gerald Green
     
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    Some players just don't get it:

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  19. valorita

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    Basketball 101

    IQ is the awareness of winning basketball plays
    Talent is the ability to make those winning plays feasible
    Huffort is the willingness to put the two above and make it into a reality
     
  20. dharocks

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    Instinct may be a bit of a misnomer because it implies that bball iq is something you're born with, but I think this basically describes it. It's basically the end result of a lot of preparation and a good working understanding of how the game is played. Basically through lots of preparation and studying, you're able to see plays develop and you can anticipate the movement of the ball, your teammates and the opposing players. You can have your back to the ball and you still know where it is. Awareness is good way to describe it.
     

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