http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/ginger-white-claims-affair-herman-cain-20111127-es Herman Cain has finally nailed the coffin, I think. Read the lawyer's statement. Doesn't come more guilty than this. Wonder if there is gonna be some collateral splash damage to that other guy who is known to have carried on affairs while married.
The only real crime here is that it's taken sex junk to bring down his campaign instead of his mental r****dation. I don't even know why this latest story is a headline instead of a human interest "item." His campaign has been over for some time. He seems to be the only one that doesn't know it.
Sorry, but the stalking and libel stuff just makes me skeptical. Not a fan of Cain's but I'd really like to see this stuff removed from the political process: We lost an entire decade to this crap twenty years ago.
The best part is when ginger showed the journalists her cell phone records that had 61 calls and texts to Cain's private cell. One of the journalists texted the number and Herman Cain called back!!!! What a dip****. I hope this distraction can be put to bed........hehe
True, though it still falls way short of the headlines a few months ago: Will Bachmann's debilitating migraines keep her from being an effective president?! How great is it that our country has legitimized these candidates by referring to them as "populists" rather than stupid and/or ignorant...
But if you call an ignorant person ignorant, you're "agenda-driven," "partisan," et cetera. One of the huge victories of the right wing is making the media quiver and put forth "both sides" as equal, even if it's the truth of Hakeem versus the pretend issue of Joe Klein.
@Batman: I don't care about the affair either per say, and certainly his idiocy is a bigger worry, but he did lie about it over and over. That's also important to consider when judging his worth.
I think it lends a little more color and robustness to the sexual harassment claims (not that I needed any more convincing). This affair is supposed to have started around the same time as the harassment instances. It's interesting that all these "false accusations" all target the same period in Cain's life. Could it be that the time he was president of the NRA was a time when Cain's marriage wasn't working too well and he started looking outside his home for sex? Maybe he thought being president of the NRA meant he could/should upgrade or luxuriate. Maybe this is when his attempts at infidelity first started and we don't hear about allegations from the 2000s because he learned how to be more discreet? In any case, he should have quit already. I won't be surprised to hear of more women stepping forward like they did with Tiger Woods. The louder he denies existing allegations the more likely new ones will come up.
My brother-in-law the ditto head said at dinner last night that he thinks it's all a set up, that Cain has never had a base in Chicago where the harassment women are from and that one of them lives in some Democratic operative's apartment building. I just went in to clear the dishes because, why bother? but I almost asked him Why? Does he really think anyone in the Democratic Party would be afraid of Obama debating Cain?
I wasn't saying lying didn't matter; I was saying Cain ought never to have mattered. Lying to the public matters and certainly the prior accusations of harassment and maybe even assault matter. And hypocrisy matters too. I'd prefer not to be moralized to by hypocrites. If they want to have their affairs or whatever and tell the public that's off limits, that's fine with me if they'll stop trying to legislate other peoples' sex lives. I was only saying we never should have found ourselves in such a place regarding someone that is so plainly in over his head intellectually. It is incredible to me that there are two former governors running for president that can't get on the debate stage and a know nothing like Cain has enjoyed frontrunner status. The GOP: the party of moral hypocrites and proud idiots.
Greenwald agrees. (There is much more at the link - all of it rather insightful IMO.) @Batman: Agreed.
From the wonderful Frum article a few days ago! But the thought leaders on talk radio and Fox do more than shape opinion. Backed by their own wing of the book-publishing industry and supported by think tanks that increasingly function as public-relations agencies, conservatives have built a whole alternative knowledge system, with its own facts, its own history, its own laws of economics. Outside this alternative reality, the United States is a country dominated by a strong Christian religiosity. Within it, Christians are a persecuted minority. Outside the system, President Obama—whatever his policy *errors—is a figure of imposing intellect and dignity. Within the system, he’s a pitiful nothing, unable to speak without a teleprompter, an affirmative-action *phony doomed to inevitable defeat. Outside the system, social scientists worry that the U.S. is hardening into one of the most rigid class societies in the Western world, in which the children of the poor have less chance of escape than in France, Germany, or even England. Inside the system, the U.S. remains (to borrow the words of Senator Marco Rubio) “the only place in the world where it doesn’t matter who your parents were or where you came from.” We used to say “You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.” Now we are all entitled to our own facts, and conservative media use this right to immerse their audience in a total environment of pseudo-facts and pretend information.
And said conservative media outlets will actually admit this in court and claim it is not a requirement that they report facts. And win. Seriously.
Cain admits giving money to Ginger White. Put a fork in his campaign... http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ve-affair-accuser-money-without-wifes-consent Cain gave affair accuser money without wife's consent By NBC's Jo Ling Kent and Andrew Rafferty and msnbc.com's Michael O'Brien MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Herman Cain said Thursday that he repeatedly gave money without his wife's knowledge to Ginger White, the Atlanta woman who alleged carrying on an affair with Cain for 13 years. In an editorial interview with the New Hampshire Union Leader, the former Godfather's Pizza CEO said Mrs. Cain "did not know that we were friends until [White] came out with this story" and he regrets not telling her sooner. Cain acknowledged sending White money for "month-to-month bills and expenses." Cain said that White sent him about 70 text messages in which, he said, she seemed economically troubled. "She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend," he said. Cain would not elaborate as to how much he gave her. Cain justified his described behavior as nothing out of the ordinary, saying, "I'm a soft-hearted person when it comes to that stuff. I have helped members of my church. I have helped members of my family." The newspaper interview had been rescheduled after a scheduling mishap last month that caused Cain to miss a meeting with the influential paper's editors. Since then, the paper endorsed former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in the GOP presidential primary. Both before and after his interview with the Union Leader today, Cain said that his campaign remains in a state of flux. He will move forward with a "reassessment" this weekend and make a final decision soon. "I will say something formal over the next several days," he told reporters. In campaign stops in Ohio and New Hampshire yesterday, Cain said he would be spending the next several days contemplating where his campaign goes from here. Last night at his state headquarters in New Hampshire headquarters, he told reporters that no decision could be made until he has a face-to-face conversation with his wife. And while Cain defiantly brushed off any notion he would end his bid for the presidency during campaign rallies yesterday, he was noticeably more measured when taking questions from reporters. When asked by NBC News if will return to the Granite State, Cain was uncertain, "Well probably, yes. But remember the reassessment." Tonight, he gives a speech Tennessee. Cain will return to Atlanta Friday evening where his wife resides.
