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Release Rice

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LeGrouper, Nov 18, 2002.

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  1. OverRRated

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    I didn't know there were Bullard haters? :eek:


    Anyway, Rice's year will depend on how well we can establish a consistent post game.
    You know, the inside-out game.....something we have the ability to do now.

    As of now, Rice should not be doing anything other than spot up shooting.
    If he can't do that, then he's wasting development time for our other players.
     
  2. ChenZhen

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    :D :D
     
  3. ChenZhen

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    I hope Rudy never post up Rice up ever again unless somebody small is holding him...I think the only two plays for Rice is running him off of screens or just spotting up...You've got to know his limitations once players get old....
     
  4. 41Fan

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    Let's get some things straight. Rice is suffering because of the role he is in--the way Rudy T chooses to use him. You can't barely play a hot-cold shooter like Rice. He needs time and shots. Rudy should know this. If GLen starts slow it does not mean he will not heat up...in fact, his more recent past shows that he heats up with more shots. The problem is that if he doesn't come storming out of the gates he gets no shots. If Rice gets no shots, Rice is better off on the bench with a DNP. It's better for the team and his previously hall of fame worthy stats. I will say one thing, and stick adamantly to it. If this team keeps Rice and does not attempt to get him hot, this team will not make the playoffs. His is valuable becasue of his shot, yes, but more so because of the opening of the floor and softening of the D when he is out there and hot. No one will make the guards game easier than Glen Rice, and really, Rudy is the only one who can help here. My guess is he doesn't. Someone was saying earlier that he shouldn't post up and only come off screens or set shoot. Well I'm GLen would be fine with that, but it's really a poor tribute to the coaching staff and to Steve Francis' role as a point gaurd when you see he's only come off one screen for a shot all season...and made it. And his post up game is still strong...he's 50% for the post this season. He needs more shots...plain and simple. A hot Glen Rice is a thousand times better than hawkins, thomas and nachbar put together...because even though most Rocket fans are too dense to give it to him...Glen Rice still gets respect in this league, and you don't leave him open.
    Oh and a footnote, some moron tried to relate MAtt Bullard's role to Glen Rice's. Ummm...MAtt Bullard was on the floor with the dream...remember him?? HE made everygame an open-look fest. And, in the one drawback, is the reason Rudy T still has a job. GLen doesn't have this luxury. Glen is often on the court with the two most selfish gaurds in the NBA and guys who simply can't pass out of the post. I agree though...Yao will benefit him later and they clearly already have a good relationship. But when I think about the business of it all...Rudy T is really making some bad decisions for this team this year...and I'm sure the GM is tickled pink about giving GLen an escalating 9 mil for sitting on the bench....I know GLen is.
     
  5. Raven

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    There is nothing worse than an over the hill jump shooter with bad knees. Except one that has a nice fat overpaid contract. The Rockets are saddled with this guy. They can't trade him. If they release him, they still have to pay his salary, which counts against the cap. Have the Rockets ever made a worse long term decision, than trading for Glen Rice. They should have let SA walk. Instead they did a sign and trade, with NY and picked up a player, who is going to weigh down their salary cap for years to come. The Rockets were obviously hoping that Rice would step up this year, and maybe increase his trade value, but nope, he is pathetic. He will also be a Rocket for a long long time.

    Anyone know how many more years he has on his contract?

    Raven
     
  6. 41Fan

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    just one more...but atleast at 9mil...it escalates to more maybe
     
  7. CBrownFanClub

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    Just as long as I am on record as saying Rice will have a good year...

    CBFC
     
  8. riggs

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    We were suckered in the acquistion of Rice, Healthy or not the guy just does not have it anymore .He didn't have in either ny or LA. It is obvious that this bum is just in town to collect a pay check and ride it as long as he can get away with it.
     
  9. WinkFan

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    The Rice is cooked. In fact, the meal has been eaten and the fortune cookies have been passed out. My cookie says:

    "Give Rice's minutes to Nachbar or Tmo".
     
  10. Severe Rockets Fan

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    So we should keep rice on the floor even though he doesn't play defense, he doesn't pass well, and he is the last one down the floor on the fast break...if he even decides to run down the court. 50% in the post? Why don't you tell us the people he posted up to get this percentage? Rice has had open shots but he misses them regularly. He's shooting 32% from the field...36% from 3. He's overweight. He came into camp overweight. "Oh, Rice is coming off an injury last season." PLEEEEEEASEE! He had surgery how long ago? He had how many months to recover and work himself back into shape? You can tell a player has lost his motivation if he uses preseason and then some to get back in shape...i.e. Glen Rice. I can't undestand why so many people are sold on Rice because of what he use to be. HE'S OLD. HE'S DONE. So what if he will have a good shooting night once in awhile, every other facet of his game just plain sucks. We had a guy like that last season...Walt Williams. Except Walt shot better at 42% and he had the occasional defensive play. Why doesn't someone tell me whose shots Rice should be taking to "stay hot"? Should Rice be taking 12-15 shots a game? How about 20? Wake up people, and get off Glen's old, wrinklely jock, he's just an old vet that is collecting his severance pay and hurting the rockets' in the process. He and Moochie need to stay on the IL...permanently. Ah, that felt better. :)
     
  11. Cohen

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    He may be over the hill, or he just may be on the downhill. I don't think he's been healthy enough long enough to determine which it is.

    If he's just on the downhill, he can be a fantastic contributor at times. I guess we'll just see.
     
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    Ahhhhhhh the gospel according to SRF. Dude, you hit the nail not only on the head, but you drove it through the floor. Everyone should stop posting on this forum.................SRF just said it all. Best post I've heard thus far in my short time on ClutchCity.
     
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    Centuwion, why do they twitteh so?
     
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    I'm not bitter, he isn't released and won't be. I don't regret the name, I believe he will be a contributor in a big way. Probably down the line and in the playoffs. With as many good forwards as we have Rudy won't use as much early in the season. He'll get his 15 minutes and occasionally more if he is on fire.

    I think as a team we are more effective to have different looks like Rice, KT, MT, TMo, Boki, and EG. And he didn't cost us the whatever millions people claim, Shandn's salary has to be weighed against that.

    The day I picked that name was when we traded for him. I stick by it... :eek: :D
     
  15. MysticRyder

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    Rice at one time was a great shooter, but that time has long passed. We do not know what Nachbar can do because he never gets into a game. It is difficult to learn when you can't get any minutes. Rudy should give Nachbar Rices' minutes.

    :D :D :D :D :D
     
  16. Severe Rockets Fan

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    Cmon RR, that's EXACTLY what Raptor fans were saying about Hakeem last year. History does repeat itself, its up to us to recognize or ignore it.
     
  17. BooDevil

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    oh.. rocketfat, rocketfat, where have u gone???
     
  18. 41Fan

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    So we should keep rice on the floor even though he doesn't play defense, he doesn't pass well, and he is the last one down the floor on the fast break...if he even decides to run down the court. 50% in the post? Why don't you tell us the people he posted up to get this percentage? Rice has had open shots but he misses them regularly. He's shooting 32% from the field...36% from 3. He's overweight. He came into camp overweight. "Oh, Rice is coming off an injury last season." PLEEEEEEASEE! He had surgery how long ago? He had how many months to recover and work himself back into shape? You can tell a player has lost his motivation if he uses preseason and then some to get back in shape...i.e. Glen Rice. I can't undestand why so many people are sold on Rice because of what he use to be. HE'S OLD. HE'S DONE. So what if he will have a good shooting night once in awhile, every other facet of his game just plain sucks. We had a guy like that last season...Walt Williams. Except Walt shot better at 42% and he had the occasional defensive play. Why doesn't someone tell me whose shots Rice should be taking to "stay hot"? Should Rice be taking 12-15 shots a game? How about 20? Wake up people, and get off Glen's old, wrinklely jock, he's just an old vet that is collecting his severance pay and hurting the rockets' in the process. He and Moochie need to stay on the IL...permanently. Ah, that felt better. <---posted by Severe Rockets Fan

    Yes he's shooting poorly, but hardly shooting at all...two things that go together for pure, set, and streaky shooters. He's not the Hornet he once was, of course not, but capable of contributing double figures nightly? Definetly, if you can't see that than I can't help you. As far as you dissing his passing and defense, you must not have been watching much of the games. He passes with more quickness and accuracy than any other forward on the team, and is a smarter defender than any other forward on the team. I recall him sending MArbury out of bounds twice on one-on ones...Only a mental midget would think RIce is to blame when some b-ball infant like Griffin or KT doesn't rotate to Rice's man when Rice rotates to someone else. He is not a liability on defense--in fact everytime he is out there directing traffic, helping out the newbies. He's an asset even now, and could be so much more if used properly, I'm sorry you can't see that. You seem to be too busy spewing the untrue, over-used Rice bashings ... watching a game might help your views out. And as far as getting him 12-15 shots a game...that sounds about right. And you take them away from a certain mr. kenny thomas...I'm glad your post made you feel better...but it sure wasn't very good.
     
  19. Cohen

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    Can't shoot anymore?

    @ Dallas: 5 for 10, all long-distance, 1-1 at the line...16 pts, 5 rebounds, 29 minutes.

    I think he's 'just gettin' warmed-up'. :)

    Stevie's offense rebounded late with some lay-ups, but Rice was the only offensive threat in this game...other than Yao of course.

    Don't write him off yet. We really haven't seen him play healthy.
     
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