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Is Yao not allowed to take shots?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Gummi Clutch, Nov 19, 2002.

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  1. Gummi Clutch

    Gummi Clutch Member

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    We all heard the stories before he came about how good he was from mid range and he could even hit the three, but in recent games I've seen Yao get wide open mid-range and even 3 point looks and he'll just stand there and look like he's afraid to shoot the ball when he's wide open and just ends up passing.

    Whats the deal?
     
  2. Rockets2K

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    he takes the shots that are available for him at the time. he took and made 9 against the Fakers..he looks to pass to others, you know, the ol' "get your teammates involved" thing..

    now that I have answered that question...

    step away from the keyboard for 15 minutes...or please refrain from hitting the new topic button for a while..you remember the flak you got last time you started so many topics so quickly?
     
  3. Gummi Clutch

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    that didnt really answer my question;o)
    the shots he took I am very happy with,
    but watch and learn how he passes up wide open mid range and three point looks tonight.
    maybe you werent paying attention.

    shots that Steve and Cat would take even if they were being double teamed.

    i'm sorry i cant stay on the boards all day to evenly space out my topics for you! ;o)

    I am anxiously awaiting to see Yao make his first 3 point shot and first alley oop.
     
  4. Rockets2K

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    no need to get personal son...:(

    I did answer your question...

    He looks to get others involved, he doesnt feel the need to take a shot everytime he gets the rock..He comes from a culture that emphasizes teamwork, not the ball hoggin, watch what i can do culture that we are used to..
    and on top of that, he probably isnt comfortable yet with the thought that he should shoot if he is open..he realizes that in order for this team to go anywhere, ball movement is paramount in importance..and is reacting accordingly...

    thats my take from the amount of "payin attention" I do..;)


    one last thing...

    I aint raggin on ya about the topics, just a gentle reminder of the flak you caught last time..if you choose not to heed my words...whatever..I cant say i didnt try to help..
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    There's a difference between a good shot and an even better shot. He may have some range, but I wouldn't advise he take any shots from the 3-point line unless he's in a desperate situation. We've got guys who can hit it better than he can, for one, and also, it is some poor rebounding position to have your center on the arc when a shot that has a 2 in 3 chance of being missed goes up. I suspect he probably is discouraged from taking the outside shots, because it is a bad idea.
     
  6. Gummi Clutch

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    bad idea for most centers, but I thought we heard Yao could hit em?
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    Well, I've heard he has good range, but I don't know if I heard 3-point line kind of range. That's not the crux of my argument though. It is the same reason I wouldn't want Rasheed Wallace or Kevin Garnett shooting the 3, even if they can. You don't want your rebounders on the perimeter when a shot goes up. You need to be in good position. High post, ok, but 3-point line is a bit too far away.
     
  8. Gummi Clutch

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    I remember Divac hittin a couple of 3's last year.

    If we can afford it, I want Yao to take the open shot.
     
  9. verse

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    so basically you don't care if it's good for the team or not. you just want yao ming to shoot a 3.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Shoot or not aside, Yao did has 3 point range. There was a report on a chinese web site, during a practice in his second weeks in Rockets uniform, Yao hit <font color=red> consecutive 6 </font>3-points!

    My take on this is he has not been comfortable on court yet. Give couple of month playing, <B>AND </B> a game is on the line, he will shoot 3-point and make it.

    Just be patient.
     
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    Yao can take his three point attempts the same way Dream use to. At the end of a game, that is in hand. Other than that he should only be shooting the 15 footers and in. Well maybe sometimes hit the occasional 18 footer.
     
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    Why is this going to extremes?

    I don't think anyone really wants Yao to spot up for 3's. However, the original poster was talking about something we've seen many times in the past few games: Yao with the ball, a few feet beyond the free-throw line, with his defender slacked waaaah off.

    That is a shot Yao can make with very high success rates. I'd venture to guess at least 65% (without a guy running at him), and at least 50% even with a guy playing closer.

    I remember one play very well, where Yao had the ball in that position... looked around, thought about taking it to the hole (thinking 'aggressive aggressive aggressive' as he's been told in practice), thought about taking the shot, and then passed it up to Cat... who then hoisted it up at about the same distance with a defender in his face.

    Not that it really matters whether it went in (Cat missed), but Yao should be taking that shot. He can pull the defending center *waaaaaay* out, and the Rockets have some great rebounding guards who can take advantage. This shouldn't be "his game", but it should definitely be a facet of it.
     
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    I agree with the statement but us as fans don't exactly know what's he is being told to do. Maybe in the future when he is more relax with the offense and everything he will be taking those kind of shots
     
  14. Gummi Clutch

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    THANK YOU! :cool:
     
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    Let him take his time. The last thing Yao needs to do just as he is starting to win over his reluctant-to-pass teammates is to jack up every open shot he sees. It's much better for the team chemistry for yao to play as he has: play within the offense and take what comes to him while keeping Steve and Cat happy. Yao's biggest worry should not be about shooting more, but it should be on better defense and rebounding so rudy can feel confident keeping him in the game longer.
     
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    I think Yao hasn't advance that far in Rudy's system where it will call for him to shoot it from that distance.
     
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    Putting the ball in the hole is what matters. Shooting 17/18 over the last three games is really awesome but we need Yao to take more shots if he is going to make such a high percentage.

    I would say that Yao is a better shot than Maurice Taylor and he should take all open shots 17ft and in. I would rather him take open mid range shots than turnaround shots in the low block.
     
  18. Old Man Rock

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    Yao will shoot more once he earns his shots... you see the Rockets have formula that's applied to all of their first round 7'6" rookies and that is how they will determine Yaos shots. If Yao gets one rebound or block he is allowed one shot in the paint if he makes that shot he is allowed one shot within the arc if he misses he must then get 2 rebounds and he is allowed to shoot again but only a dunk if he makes that he is allowed to shoot one outside shot again... They have not factored in the 3 point shot as of yet but I am sure it will be some combination of outside shot versus free throws made and long rebounds per threes made. I hope that answers your question.
     

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