I heard a lot of "we're set at every position, let them develop" "don't trade our players, they have good chemistry" and still, none of you believe this team is going to win it all. we can't even say this team is going to be in the playoffs for sure. could anyone please tell me where's the chemistry of these players? I know many of them are good friends off court, but why this team ranks last in the league in assist? they don't trust their teammates! they're selfish on the court! this team needs change! we need better role players to completment our franchise players: Yao Ming & Francis. Yao Ming is a skilled giant. In a few years, he'll be unstopable in the paint. What he needs is physical forwards to help him bang inside, rebound, and play defense. He'll draw double or even triple-teams from the opponents, so he also need good shooter to knock down the open 3s. Francis is a talanted high scoring guard. He need a 2-guard who can help him set up for their teammates, play the passing lane and run the fastbreak with him. He also need the 2-guard to be smarter and willing to be a role player. therefore, here's my suggestion, 1.) a 3-way trade: Houston receive: E. Brand, A. Kirilenko, and J. Amaechi the Clippers receive: Mobley and Griffin Utah receives: Q. Richardson, K. Thomas, 1st Rd. pick (Hou) why Clippers make the trade: Brand didn't get his extension and I think the Clippers is not going to offer him the max next summer. Like always, they'd love to trade their stars for talanted but cheap players: Griffin & Mobley. why Utah makes the trade: the Jazz are 3-7 (worst start in franchise) they know their stars are old and it's time to rebuild. they like Kirilenko but Kenny is a perfect fit to the Jazz. K.T. can play both forward positions, could be a great complement or back up to Malone. Q. Richardson is a star in making. Avg. 13.3pt/g last year in just 26.6 m/g. has the potential to be a 20+ scorer. they also got a 1st Rd. pick and dumped Amaechi's fat contract. why Rockets make the trade: we got an all-star big man in Brand, a great role player in Kirilenko. Amaechi's contract expires in two years. Rockets line-up for this season: Cato, Yao Ming, Collier Brand, Taylor, Amaechi Kirilenko, Morris, Nachbar Hawkins, Rice Francis, Norris, Madox this lineup is good enough to make the playoffs in the West Conf. next summer we need to sign Brent Barry (6'6", athletics, great ball handler, shooter, passer, and open court player) to the Mid. Exception ($4.5mil.) our lineup for next season could be: Yao Ming, Cato E. Brand, Taylor Kirilenko, Morris B. Barry, Hawkins Francis, Norris this is a title contender! oh, and if Duncan's leaving S.A. next summer we might become the best team in History by sign-n-trade Brand+Nachbar+picks for the big easy. here are the reasons for Duncan coming to Houston: 1.) no matter where Duncan play, he'll get his Max contract, so the only thing matters is winning. if he knows he could win the championships for the next decade with Yao, Kirilenko, and Francis he'll do it. 2.) Yao/Duncan twin towers can complement to each others and let Duncan play the 4 which he prefered. 3.) Duncan prefer to live in South, and TX has no state tax. am I dreaming? I really believe it's possible!
Yeah maybe we can just trade or sign the all-star team. We need direction not trades. Although I would be in favor of obtaining Brand Even if it ment trading Eddie
Interesting trade, I know Brand or Kandi ain't gonna be on the clippers next year cause both want the max. I am pretty sure Kandi is the one getting the boot not Brand. Not even Sterling would stupid enough to trade one of the league's premier forwards, Brands still like 23 or something too. In addition I doubt that the clips would include richardson in that deal, especially due to the way Griffin has been playing lately. So if the rocks can't get that trade, I doubt the rocks can negoiate something with Utah. I would like to have B.Barry though, I'd think he bring alot to the table for the rocks. But I doubt Les would trade Mobley for him and I doubt Seattle would want to see Barry go the way hes been contributing lately.
I didn't say trade Mobley for Barry, we can just sign him in next year's FA market. Payton is retiring in a couple of years and the Sonics is going nowhere. Barry would love to play for other team for a shot at the championship. therefore, here's the strategy: package Mobley & Griffin for an all-star big man; and then sign Barry to replace Mobley.
Mobley and Griffin won't be enough to get Brand.Even adding a fit T-Mo won't make a difference. Barry will be looking for big money and we don't have salary cap room.
1.) Brand is in last year of his contract and will ask for max contract next summer. History tells me that Clippers would love to trade him now for talanted but cheap players. Griffin & Mobley both have 3 years remaining in their contracts and only cost half the max salary. 2.) only a few teams are under the salary cap, and they all want to sign the prized stars: Duncan, Brand, Odom, Sheed, ..... only the Sonics could offer more than the mid exception (about $4.6mil.) to Barry but I doubt they would offer big contract to Barry because their 2-guard of the future is Desmond Mason. Payton is going to retire in a couple of years, Barry would love to play for other team for a shot at the NBA title.
I like a lot of your changes, but won't Seattle give Barry some of Payton's money? I'm afraid he won't be had the the mid-level exception.
Your nuts! what this team needs is stability not more change. This is a play-off caliber team and a team that will challange for a championship in the years to come. 1. In seven games we have had five diferent starting line-ups. 2. Kenny Thomas started getting worked back into the rotation in game 3. 3. Glen Rice started getting worked into the rotation in game 4. 4. Mo Taylor started getting worked back into the rotation in game 6. 5. We have our top pick that we are trying to get up to speed on American ball after missing all of the off season, all of training camp and all but a couple of games of the pre-season. 6. Our starting center has missed the last two games because of a death in the family. 7. We still have yet to get Terence Morris off of IR and when he gets back he may have to get worked into the rotation. How could you possibly suggest that what this team needs is more change? Please! What this team needs is stability and to get all of its peices healthy and back on the court. For the first time in over a year we can see a light at the end of the tunnel and you want to screw it up. We have played a total of seven games and we have a winning record on a young team that has had zero stability this season. Only now are we starting to see the players on the court together that will lead us to the play-offs. Give them an oppertunity don't give up on them before they even have a chance to play one single game together.
I will give you credit for a well thought out trade and good explanations... But I have to agree with CRASH... Rockets don't need trades, they need stability they need time to play together and learn the offense together learn each others tendencies together. And it's not going to happen over night. Basketball is about rhythm and chemisTry. Give our team some time to play together before you start trading the group and that means more than a few games, probably more than a few weeks and maybe more than a few months... but eventually they will all understand the offense and all be in sync and come playoff time I would not want to be the team that meets the Rockets in the first round... No trades for you!
I like your toughts, and getting Kirilenko would be great because he is the next Toni Kukoc. But trading Griffin and Mobley for Brand a guy that would be on the Rockets for one season is nuts. I would like to get Kirilenko somehow though.
You show a lack of trust and faith in your Team and its Management. The Rockets have only played 7 games and are 4&3. Give them a chance, when Francis is out of the running for MVP, he is going to realy be the leader of his team and bond all his players into a Team with chemistry. If he doesn't then Rudy might wake up to the fact that the Rox are playing UGLY ball even when they win and the Fans don't like it!He might even start running plays for his Team. Your idea of this trade is so remote (the kindest word I could think of)that I can't wonder why we didn't get McGrady as well as K. Bryant, we could average about 150pts/game.
Just befor the season started it was ALEXANDER or CD that said on tv "we will let this team play together for a while, then we will tinker with it some if need be". I just do not belive that there will be any major players being traded this year at all. Do you all count KT as a major player or a minior player? If a trade is made it will most likley be just before trade deadline for bench depth not a starter. I would guess.
Everytime the Rockets lose people want to break up the team. How about showing some patience, we're only 7 games into the season and the team is winning and in a playoff position. It's early, why trade everybody and start over.
Yeah trade Mobley's "ass" out of here and bring in 31 year old Brent Barry, this sure helps the team's development. What is this love affair with Brent Barry!? He's having a nice year, but people complain about Mobley's defense, Barry's is worse. Barry is having a decent year yet Mobley scores more then him. Most of all Barry is 31 years old, why would you want to break up a young backcourt for a 31 year old player? Brent Barry!? I'm glad CD is the GM of this team.
While I don't agree with them, I would like to say that this is one of the better and more realisitic trade proposals I have seen on here from both teams' perspective...
I'm guessing the Mobley for Brent Barry will replace the "Move Francis to SG" threads. Those trade scenerios make no sense and have little if any chance of ever happening.
Just a question for RocksMillenium: Can You Read? before you reply please carefully read other's post. 1.) when did you hear I say "Trade Mobley for Barry?" I'm not that stupid to believe that will happen. what I said is: "package Mobley & Griffin for an all-star big man AND THEN sign Barry to fill the 2-guard position" of course Griffin & Mobley are talanted and that's why we can trade them for super stars. you might love Griff & Mobe alot, but believe me Elton Brand is the missing piece that can make this team a contender. He's a better complement to Yao & Steve than Mobley. 2.) a lot of you would defend Mobley by his friendship with Steve. alot of you say "let them develop their chemistry". c'mon, there's no chemistry among selfish & stupid players. It's the 4th year since we got "The Best Backcourt in the League" and we still not a playoff team YET! Mobley still shoots ill-advise shots! the team still ranks last in assist! enen we make the playoffs this year it's not good enough. I want championship. and how can you say we don't need change? even the defending champ Lakers is making changes to make them a better team. 3.) RocketFan85, if we traded for Brand this season, we'll get the right to re-sign him next summer. remember how 76ers re-signed Motomber after they traded Raliff & Kukoc for him? 4.) Yetti, your post tells me you like my proposal but just think it's not realisitic. don't just call something looks good dreaming, tell me what make you think this is impossible.
I just don't see how you guys can't see that mobley hurts the team. He takes the stupidest shots i've seen any player take. He's impatient and stat conscious. I dont see him playing with the other 4 players on the court. Every time he gets the ball, there is no swing. He just starts looking at the opposition and pivots and tries to fake them by acting like he's gonna take it in and shoots a dumb shot with somebody in his face with 10 seconds still left on the shot clock. You know, i read in magazine article, and they were talking about Mobley and they said, "Steve Francis is an all-star, but Cuttino Mobley isn't and somebody needs to clear that up if they want to win any games." And I agree %100. Addition by subtraction, baby!
