Why don't we trade all of the guys who we think are BAD, especially after they have a bad game or lose by a point or don't pass to Collier enough, and TRADE them for players who are GOOD, or for draft picks, which are always turned into players that are GOOD? I think I'm on to something!!!! Will this work under the Salary Cap? Anybody Know? Anybody? Hello?
I don't think people notice Brent Barry is better than Cuttino Mobley. Maybe two unneccessary threads (this one and the other) wouldn't be here if that fact was accepted as a fact.
There may be something in the CBA that could hinder this deal going through. But damn, just think of the possibilities. Somebody should email that Larry Coon guy just to be sure, though.
Just because you, a Knicks fan who has seen maybe two games combined from the Sonics and Rockets, thinks that doesn't make it a fact. This is the same Brent Barry that almost lost his job in the preseason to Desmond Mason, and is averaging 14, 4.8, and 4.7. I'd much rather sacrifice two rebounds and two assists per game to have a 20 ppg scorer that is a threat to create, and a threat to draw double teams. And, considering some of the preseason rankings I saw for NBA shooting guards, most analysts will as well. Opinions aren't facts.
Better yet, lets trade Les Alexander and Carol Dawson for Elgin Baylor and Donald Sterling. Im sure they would be much more efficient at making your wishes come true.
Barry is a better defender, passer and shooter than Mobley and is a much more efficient and team-oriented player than Cuttino. Mobley gets more time, many more shots and happens to average 6 more points as a result - the difference being Mobley takes over 18 shots a night and Barry does his damage in just over half that many. That's huge. The bright side is it took Barry 5-6 years to become this efficient.... the bad side is Mobley just hasn't shown much court intelligence improvement in what is now his 5th season. Mobley can be potent and dangerous. But if I had Steve Francis, I'd rather have Barry alongside him.
Exactly, efficiency is the biggest difference between them. He really doesn't take that many bad shots, as seen by his FG%. This team has a superstar, and it needs more team-oriented players like Barry. If the Rockets had the oppurtunity, they would get a player like Barry in a heartbeat. Please, you are the one always complaining about preseason rankings in college football, so why should you lay back on it now? You say you would sacrifice 2 rebounds and 2 assists for 6 more points? What about the 8 or so shots that will go to other players on the team because he *gasp* passes the ball? People are always whining about Ming not getting enough attempts (and he isn't). Cuttino Mobley is one of the major reasons he doesn't get a lot of shot attempts. Put him on a team that passes, and he'd be in the running for ROY with Jay and Drew.
First, the statement that Barry is a better defender is very debatable... I would much rather have Mobley in one on one defense. Also, like I said, you see the Rockets maybe five times a year, at best... you don't need to be pretending to know what the Rockets would do. Also, two extra assists doesn't mean eight more shots, unless you're shooting 25% from the field. Talk about an exaggeration. Barry's percentage is basically irrelevant, as pretty much all of his shots are spot up threes/20 foot jumpers. He doesn't do a lot of penetration and creation. Mobley's percentage on open shots is high too, if I had to bet. The reason Mobley's percentage is lower is that he actually has the ability to create. Believe it or not, sometimes you can't get wide open shots like Barry takes, and you actually have to breakdown the defense, which can get a shot for you or your teammates. Mobley's ability to do this, and Barry's inability, is a huge factor. Also, as long as Ming's playing 15 mpg, he's not going to be a factor for ROY on any team. If Barry makes four more passes per game than Mobley, in most games it will be 0 or 1 of those extra passes that could have possibly gone to Yao. That's not a major reason.
But about 18 shots to about 10 shots does. Talk about a misinterpretation. Getting the whole team involved would help this team drastically. Yes, you can tell this from watching one game. Believe it or not, they play exactly like the Knicks, just with better 1on1 players. Its a shame better personnel for 1on1 doesn't drastically improve the gameplan.
Just because Barry has less shots doesn't mean he has less touches. Barry handles the ball a lot in the Seattle offense.
And Mobley handles the ball more than Barry. There is no way Payton handles the ball less than Francis.
The Cat vs. Barry debate is, uh, debatable. Straight up, I'd take Cat over Barry. But in a team context, and in particular, the context of our team, I'd lean towards Barry. Cat and Francis really aren't complementary. It reminds me of when we had Hakeem, Barkley, and Clyde on the same team. It seemed like we should have completely dominated everybody. Granted, we had a great season, and those three were already on the downside of their careers. But the problem was, they didn't really complement each other. In particular, it seemed like our offense was just Dream and Charles taking turns on the left block, and Glide having to shoot too many threes. No variety. Likewise, Franchise and Cat seem to just take turns doing ISOs on the perimeter. And other teams get to defend us the same way everytime. Franchise by definition demands the ball. For Cat to be productive, he demands the ball too. Not an optimal situation, no matter Cat's talents.
If the frontcourt of the rocks learns to dominate, I would prefer someone like Barry, who is always a threat to hit the open jumper, can handle the ball and run the break, and always makes the smart plays. that day hasn't come yet, but it may soon. I hope Mobes will be able to adjust his game accordingly when it does happen.
