I don't really get the anger with UT not wanting to play. As far as I am concerned, we state we are willing to keep playing. If they don't want to play, see ya, and I'm fine with not playing them given the schedule we will be playing in conference. I saw this coming a month ago so I decided to go back to Texas for Thanksgiving this year and go to the game since it might be the last for awhile. Paid $160 per ticket for seats in the upper level behind the end zone. Those same crappy seats are now going for $375 per ticket on Stub Hub. Seems like a lot of people think this may be the last game for quite a while.
Are you serious? OU/Neb played for over a hundred years and had National Championship implications most of the time. ATM was only good for about 10 years during the Sherrill/Slocum years. The Texas/ATM game was always a regional game and seldom had national implications other than spoiler.
after all of this that has gone on you honestly believe TAMU does not bring national attention? If anything the rivalry can generate more revenue now than ever before... Boy those long horns know how to spin it... why exactly does TAMU need to play the game? Like i said before they will have plenty of revenue throughout the year with their new awesome schedule. UT is scared bottom line only way I become convinced they are not is if they schedule LSU / BAMA / or ARK. in our place. They know little brother is about to grow up just you wait and see. We may take our lumps early in the SEC but it is only a matter of time. We have every resource to compete.
I like our new adopted brother better anyway... he is cajun and way more our style than those tea sippers in austin. It is cool I am sure they will be happy sipping Earl Grey watching a smashing good show between them and Iowa St. Suckers.
Just hung up the phone with BU guy...he said: 1. signs pointing towards TCU, BYU and WVU to get to 12. 2. BU is firing on all cylinders to include TCU. there's been a ton of bad blood between alumni with TCU perception that BU kept them out of Big 12 before....so this is an interesting turn. 3. he says his guys tell him there is absolutely nothing to the Mizzou/SEC rumors. that Mizzou's chancellor is, and i'm quoting, "the man who put together the plan to keep the Big 12 together."
The only reason people cared what ATM was going to do was because they were afraid OU would do the same. The Big 12, is all about OU and Texas. No one else matters as long as those two schools are committed to the conference. If OU stays, then the Big 12 will replace ATM with BYU and nothing really changes much in the Big 12.
I hate this whole 12+ team stuff. 10 teams conferences are the best for the fans. Each team gets to play everyone in the conference every year.
Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Not totally shocked by this. BU gives TCU a natural rival, it will be good for the both of them, IMO. If there were room for both of them the first go-round, Baylor likely would've been in TCU's corner.
No one is debating that the choice is ours and it seems that it has been made. But you're gonna be hardpressed to find an AD that is going to say we're not playing because of money or spite. I know a ton of Longhorns and Aggies who are willing to read between the lines and take it for what it is. Doubt Dodds really cares about the few people who aren't willing to do the same.
I would agree if Texas has 4 non conference games like A&M will but they only have 3. After you schedule the 2 cupcakes that EVERY team schedules (including A&M) that would only leave the 1 rivalry game. That just doesn't give for much opportunity. I would rather keep the games against Notre Dame Ole Miss, Ark, and USC on the schedule then bumping them for A&M. Maybe if the big 12 goes back to 12 teams and we have 4 non conference games then it will come back. As a poster said, A&M is leaving a conference with 3 other Texas teams. Don't put the blame on Texas for messing up rivalries.
When TCU/BU stopped playing, it ended what I think was the 2nd longest rivalry (in terms of years consecutively played) in college football. I agree that these schools seem very natural rivals to one another, even after the "pause" of 15 years or so of not playing. BU needs to get a new football stadium built. Let's call it McLane/Starr Field. Hey, I hear A&M likes to make interest free loans to athletic departments...I see a partnership brewing!!!
It's my hope that WVU decides it can't swallow the geographic pill of being in the Big 12 North, where the average distance from Morgantown to most of the schools would be something ridiculous like 1000 miles. And they'd rather wait on an SEC invite. Only problem there is that creates a problem with divisions. OU won't allow OSU to go to the North. I'd imagine? That would force TCU to the North. They'd be none too happy about that, either. Of course, BYU's travel is ridiculous in this setup, too. So Air Force makes good logistical sense for the other North teams.
No matter what happens in all this, Texas has taken a huge PR hit across the country. Out here on the West Coast I've heard comments like this quite a bit ... http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0922-dufresne-college-football-20110922-11,0,6872008.column I'm sure Texas doesn't really care about their perception, but I think it is going to hurt them at some point down the line. A side question ... I keep hearing that the Big XII (especially Baylor and Texas) want this iron-clad agreement to keep anyone from leaving. What if someone like Missouri just says no and that they don't agree to that. If the conference changes the bylaws in those regards, couldn't Mizzou or other schools just say they don't want to be a part of those new Bylaws so the Big XII is essentially releasing them free and clear?
financially, BYU kills TCU. much bigger footprint. on the football field, TCU does very well obviously. i really hope TCU gets included; but their alumni base and following is pretty small. they've have also had real difficulty selling out games over the last 5 years or so, even while being really competitive. when you consider that in context of them getting a share of the pie but not bringing much in...that's why people look elsewhere.
