The lady is Sophie Ellis Bextor, an emerging British artist, who was once part of an Indie band and is striking out as a solo artist now. So, I'm thinking the campaign will be international. Sure makes a statement:
The people in charge of PETA have no ethics. They don't care about the cause...it is all about the paycheck to them. I don't agree with PETA but I am sad for the rank and file who are being used as pawns in the management's game.
Refman, you could say the exact same thing about the pro-life movement. In both cases you'd be wrong, re: lack of ethics. Yes, raising money is important to PETA (like it is for Right to Lifers). They need it to get their message across. You certainly don't need to agree with their tactics, but if anything they are TOO ethical. It's their ethics which lead them (and pro-lifers and many other uber-ethical folk) to employ tactics you might find repugnant. And I seriously doubt they had to skin their own fox. There are, sadly, an abundance of skinned foxes (and other animals) for them to choose from.
I think she skinned that thing with her teeth! PETA would get more mileage by exhibiting the ridiculous looks of fox fur garments. In any case, somebody who wears that is probably going to have trouble understanding the live-fox-to-dead-fox-to-ugly-hat causal link. Way too abstract.
I can't speak for her ethics, but Ingrid Newkirk, the head of PETA, does believe very strongly in promoting animal rights and has written several books to that end. She also does lots of speeches, articles, etc... If she were just trying to get money, I'm sure she could find better ways than heading up a publicly vilified non-profit organization. I don't doubt the sincerity of her message. That said, I don't agree with the organization's method of promoting their cause. I've been an ethical vegetarian for 14 years and in all that time I've never met anyone (non-veg) who responded positively to PETA's in-your-face assault technique. In fact, I've found that it's about the quickest way to turn someone off. I give money to lots of animal welfare groups, but PETA isn't one of them. They now seem to serve more as a hinderence to groups that are attempting to alleviate animal suffering by dragging all the organizations into the "fringe" category along with them.
Jorge, I think it's clear what pro-lifers have to do with it. They're another group of people with strong beliefs, based in ethics, who sometimes use extreme tactics to get their message across. It's a reach to call that politicizing the thread. Further, I didn't say anything derogatory about them and it's rare I ever do. I'm pro-choice but I absolutely respect the pro-life movement (if not always their tactics) and I understand why they feel strongly and use extreme tactics. A quick search on my previous posts on abortion will confirm this. I was only using them as an example, and I think a fairly good one.
They will be ethical when they stop doing things for shock value and start doing them on the basis of their view. Wasn't it PETA that had an ad with a naked woman recently? WTF does that have to do with animal rights? Oh...yeah...nothing...it has to do with gaining attention any way you can in the hopes that somebody will float a check. I don't know dude...I don't recall seeing new pro-life group ads in magazines monthly with every other month something new and controversial.
Refman, lol. Is the bar purely memorization? Your reasoning skills fly out of the window as soon as the subject hits an emotional chord with you.
I am starting my own group. All of you are welcome to join. I hate eating vegetables. I think they are being mistreated. I am proposing that everyone quit hurting the poor vegetables and their fragile feelings and just eat meat. One example. a couple of Thursdays ago I saw this pumpkin outside this house. It had such a scared and sad look on its face that I just had to save it. So I ran up and took him. It evidently made it's owner mad cause he was yelling "Bring back Jack" or something like that. So today I am going to start a group for veggies. I will call it PERV. People for Equal Rights of Vegetables.
That reminds me of my favorite Conan O'Brian "In the year 2000" joke. In the year 2000, vegetarianism will rapidly decline when plants learn to talk.
Well it is not an actual quote per se. I am sure it has been done before but I was just spouting off.
Even though their campaigns 'turn off' many people, the curious part is that they do work. The tactics do get in the news and make the fur industry an issue. The campaigns leave people disagreeing with Peta's tactics, possibly denouncing the organization, but often agreeing with the cause.
The PETA organization and many who follow the lead are a joke and hypocritical. 1) At the 2002 PETA Awards one of the sponsors was Benihana. Hmmm interesting! 2) Look no further than the owners of the Houston Rockets. I am all for some one having a cause and believing in it, but do not shove it in others faces. If you truly believe in an issue, why not live by it or set a standard. Do not have the cheerleaders wear shirts, and then turn around and sell meat to the fans, isn’t that a wee bit hypocritical? Save the “its not their building” BS, I can promise you there WILL BE MEAT at the new arena. If they believe in their cause then do not have meat there. What???? Oh, you say “they will not make as much money if they do not serve meat”??? Well, they must not believe much in your cause if you are willing to let money sway your opinion. Those who truly believe in their stance and feel it is an important issue will not let money change the way they believe. Take a stance, live by what you preach, and do not serve meat at the new arena. The Alexanders are not hurting for money so this is their chance to show everyone how much this organization means to them. If they don’t, then they may as well get into fur sales, as there is plenty of money to be made there as well. That's my rant, I feel much better now.
