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Need quick review of Aaoron Glenn Song

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Chance, Nov 13, 2002.

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  1. Chance

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    This will only be up for a little bit but I trust you guys. (Most of you!!) We did the Aaron Glenn song last night but as I listened to it this morning I think it needs something. A change. Something. PLease PLEASE Listen to it and offer changes. It's being aired on 610 tomorrow so I need the hanges early. I'll be taking it off the board at 8 or 8:30 (if I maintain some modicrum of responsibility) and putting it back up this afternoon when its re-recorded.

    PLEASE! THE COMMENTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. I've got a brain fart and need your collective ideas.

    Thanks guys!!!!!!! and Girls!!!!!! And Refman!!!!!! And especially Jeff!!!!!


    Chance

    Welcome Home Aaron Glenn!
     
  2. codell

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    Chance,

    It has a very catchy beat. The kind that sticks in your head whether you want it to or not. lol But I do like it and its very upbeat.

    I wasnt so sure about the words until the part about the cops and the Kmart parking lot. Nice inside joke for all Houstonians. That part sold me on the song. :D

    Its no Air Bullard (my fav of all time) but great work as usual!!!! Congrats!!!!
     
  3. DEANBCURTIS

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    Well, it might have been better if it were about Ty Law, but I guess it will do. ;)
     
  4. Free Agent

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    You asked, so: The music is fine, although it's sorta laid back for an NBA defensive player...probably needs a little more "ooomph" to it...I don't like the "Welcome Home" part. He's been back home over a year now and has played more than half of the season so I think it sorta loses it's bite. I don't think it is as catchy as the Yao Ming or Steve McKinney song.

    Can you do something using "The Aaron Glenn Show" in it? I think the Texans are less likely to crank it up during a game. The Rockets seem to use samples more. What I'm saying is I think the song should be a cool, catchy open for his radio show.

    That's my 2 cents.

    I think you should make an open for the Rudy T and Dom Capers shows while you are at it! :)
     
  5. Phi83

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    Chance,
    The song sounds great, I love the part about "Cops in a K-Mart parking lot" (It's a Houston thing).

    I heard you yesterday when you called into 610 during the Steve McKinney show, I think it's funny how Steve said that since he had a song that Glenn was whining that he wanted a song as well.

    Great job!
     
  6. Castor27

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    I think that is my favorite song of yours so far. Well song about a person that is. Nothing beats BuckFutter ;)
    Anyways the song is very catchy and the lyrics are great. I too appreciated the K-mart comment.

    CK
     
  7. Jeff

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    My .02 and I'm going to be honest because it wouldn't be fair to you to not be.

    I think it is a catchy song - reminds me a little of PM Dawn.

    My complaints would be more on the technical side than the song side. For starters, it's a tad empty. If you were going for that Madonna's "Don't Tell Me" thing with the real spare drum loop and single acoustic guitar, I get that. The problem is that there isn't anything really interesting about the guitar (unlike the Madonna song where they chop it up in Pro Tools and make is sound like a record skipping) and it is WAY out front in the mix.

    The loop probably needs to be stronger, no so much in how it is written but in how it is mixed. It just isn't strong enough to stand up to the super compressed rap-ish vocals.

    Those are really just little things that can be fixed in the studio. My only real complaint about the performance is the chorus. In all your other songs, the hooks were designed to be funny. The supported the comedic elements of the song.

    This chorus seems to me to be more serious in the sense that you are really trying to present a nice sentiment - "Welcome home..." I really actually like the hook. It's pretty and catchy. My problem is that the music does not really support the hook very well and, in all honesty, if you want a more serious chorus, you'll need to re-think how you sing it.

    The vocals are just too harsh and out front for this type of hook. You've got a beauty of a pop hook but the vocals are recorded like rap vocals - really loud, not particlurly well-performed and overly harsh. When you have a pop hook that nice, you need to bring more music in (more guitars, maye a string or two - stuff to fill up the space that is there), pull it up in the mix and lay back on the vocals. You need to give them some space to breathe and they really do need to be performed a little better than that. Personally, I'd ditch the back up vocals or bring them WAY down in the mix. They could compliment your main vocal but they stick out too much.

    The song is really good. I like it and the hook is really catchy. I wouldn't normally comment on your stuff because you have your own thing, but this really seems to be stepping into an area I'm familiar with - pop music. Mostly, the issues I hear are production issues though, and those are a lot easier to fix than song issues.

    Listen to some PM Dawn or some more recent Madonna. This is definitely in that vein and they know how to do it REALLY well.
     
  8. Chance

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    Jeff,

    Your comments were very helpful. We are dropping in some electric guitar, kinda harsch industrial electric guitar, and some strings throughout. We are dropping the 'build-up' of the song and having all of the instruments kick in after the intro. We are turning the chorus vocals down and adding a new chorus where what is there now is only hidden harmonies.

    Thanks for the comments. I mean it.

    Any other ideas anyone???


    Chants
     
  9. Jeff

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    Chance,

    Glad I could help. One note on strings...

    I assume you'll be using sampled strings which is fine. I've used them many times myself. The sampler is a lot cheaper than an orchestra and they don't mouth off to you like that smart ass contra bassist. :)

    One thing I've learned is to be really careful with where they are in your mix. Don't bring them up to much or they will sound really fake and, unless you are going for fake cheesy strings (some retro bands like them that way), you'll just get a weak-sounding string sample that sticks out like a sore thumb.

    Good luck.
     
  10. Chance

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    We've got some some pretty high dollar sample tank string/orchestra sounds and the sound is truly indistinguishable from reality. And the drum loop is a wee cheesy because it's authentic.

    clm
     
  11. Jeff

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    Don't say that to my violinist. She'll kill you! :D

    I've got some too. It isn't the sound that is bad, it is the performance 99 times out of 100. You can fake sounds, but it is really, REALLY tough to fake performance and that makes a big difference.

    I'll be interested to hear the final product.
     
  12. Refman

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    Damn Chance...you've done it again.

    I agree with Jeff about a tad of a hollow sound. But the lyrics are great and the music wasn't bad for the most part. Where do you come up with this stuff? The inside of your brain must be a VERY interesting place. :)

    I appreciate the mention of me in your post bro.
     
  13. DVauthrin

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    Chance,

    I like your music, but where is a song about a Longhorn. All these aggie songs are starting to make me wonder about you and make me sick.

    Sorry refman, you understand :)
     
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    I was thinking the same thing.

    Great song...as usual!

    How about a Jamie Sharper/reggae song, mon?:D
     
  15. Refman

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    I understand. BTW...how many Longhorns are on the Texans roster? If there are any notables then Chance should consider a song for them. :)
     
  16. DVauthrin

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    See now this is why they should draft Roy Williams :)
     

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