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Another Speeding Ticket Question

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by alexcapone, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Wilford_Knows

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    I can attest to it.

    Don't play with me, you better check my sig little boy...
     
  2. Rizzy

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    Shouldn't you be out with the other "big boys" enforcing the laws those "'experts" have laid out for you?
     
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  3. rhadamanthus

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    I don't know if Wilford is a cop, but he's definitely a dick. Which, I suppose, increases the likelihood of him being a cop.
     
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  4. v3.0

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    He's posting from a Shipley.
     
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  5. SpiffyRifi

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    I actually never said he didn't have a right to do it. Lawyers aren't allowed to argue jury nullifcation, but that doesn't mean a jury can't nullify. Jury's make decisions contrary to the law every day. The question is whether or not it is right to do so. My point is people who go in and decide to vote not guilty based on their "feelings on the law" as opposed to the law as it is written or the evidence presented to them, do everyone a disservice. They don't change the law and they don't usually change the outcome. All they do is delay the process and waste people's time. (That is especially harmful in cases like a sexual assault of a child where the child has already been traumatized from having to testify once)

    A juror should not support a verdict that would "do violence to their conscience." I've heard judges use that phrase and I believe it. I'm not saying someone should put their personal bias aside and find someone guilty of a law they don't believe in. I'm saying, they need to speak up on that point during voir dire (jury selection) and be taken off the jury. If you can't in good faith find someone guilty of a law that you don't believe in, its your duty to inform the lawyers and the court of that - otherwise, you're just wasting time and money.

    Any decent lawyer is going to ask questions regardin people's feelings on the law during voir dire. If you are asked that question and lie to the judge or lawyer or simply don't raise your hand (if they are asking for a show of hands to answer the question), you are violating your oath to tell the truth (which you take before voir dire). People have a right to nullify, but they DO NOT have a right to lie under oath.
     
  6. rimbaud

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    Grammar is never irrelevant but more to the point my response was because I thought people might have written 12 or so times because you had written that 10 was a conservative estimate. I thought that your phrasing might have been a contributor to the miscommunication. Sorry if it came accross as overly harsh but you had used the phrase more than once so being sarcastic was my natural response.
     
  7. LonghornFan

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    Why are you even proud to be a "cop", troll?

    A head, a heartbeat and a GED is all you need to become one. Awesome job you guys do NOT protecting the citizens as just about all of your buddies do nothing but sit on the side of the road with a radar and pencil push all day to collect money for this broke ass city. Most, if not all of you were bullied in school and need the badge and gun to complete your small man syndrome.

    Sip your Dunkin Doughnut coffee and finish the rest of your shift sleeping behind Krogers. No wonder you twits have to work 3 jobs. Most of your kind are freaking morons with a hard on for "I'm the law" attitude as you've shown in this thread.

    b****.
     
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  8. javal_lon

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    LMAO.:grin::grin:
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    No argument, which I presume is why Sparf v. US still allows the judge to instruct the jurors to rule based on the law as written (that's from memory, I don't recall offhand exactly how the decision states it).

    However, I do think it a little paradoxical, since admitting to the lawyer that you reserve the right to judge the law itself during voire dire will almost certainly get you kicked off the jury, which kind of negates the purpose of the ruling to begin with. Meh.
     
  10. Wilford_Knows

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    I'm not the law, but I'll lay my life on the line to protect it and innocent citizens. Including smug SOB's like yourself. Who probably wouldn't make it 10 seconds at my job, away from your cozy little desk in Pasadena.
     
  11. LonghornFan

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    Nice "search" try. Pasadena? lol

    You yourself said you were a bailiff, right? Pretty sure I could say "All Rise" a few times a day. That GED pays dividends obviously.
     
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  12. SwoLy-D

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    :eek:

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    LonghornFan [​IMG] Wilford_Knows

    TEAM WILFORD
     
  13. CrazyDave

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    no fair, you didn't say it was going to get interesting on page 7.
     
  14. Wilford_Knows

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    Yes, I serve as bailiff. Not ashamed of it, actually damn proud of it. And there's no GED over here either. Just a BBA.

    Not that there is anything wrong with someone obtaining a GED. I'm not sure why you keep throwing that around as if it's an insult.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Of course I am right.

    :)

    DD
     
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  16. rhadamanthus

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  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Why does it have to be a fat animal? Huh? HUH?

    LOL

    DD
     
  18. LonghornFan

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    Well congrats on loving your job. Pretty sure I could last 10 minutes moving people, in handcuffs, from a jail cell to the courtroom and back. I mean, they usually just walk in line, being in handcuffs and all.
     
  19. v3.0

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    Sounds like you're being skeptical...
     
  20. SwoLy-D

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    BIRD. :eek:
     

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