The professional court? The ones where it actually matters? Don't get me wrong, I never try and draw charges. And I do think it's kind of dickish to do it, but I think it's equally stupid to complain about someone if they legitimately draw a charge on you. Because, unless just undercutting you (which it sounds like in this case), drawing the charge is maybe the only effective way from stopping you from just running over people. If someone has legitimately drawn a charge on you, you're the one that's probably playing out of control. Again, I don't do it. But then, I do follow the unwritten rules of pickup, which means very few offensive foul calls and very few travel calls. BUT, if someone wants to call a travel because a player moves both feet before dribbling... well, that's a legitimate call. Stop travelling if you don't want to travel. That said, don't be upset when travels start to be called both ways. Which ultimately leads to an increase in foul calls, and a slower game with a ton of arguing.... hence, the unwritten rules of pickup. But still, if a guy is constantly beating me off the dribble by travelling, then got to say something. Worse than actually making legitimate calls per the rules of basketball is the guy who doesn't make those calls until the game is on the line. Then all of a sudden he calls an offensive foul, or a travel which may actually both be right calls, but have been happening all game/day. Those guys really deserve to be punched in the face!
What? LOL - those guys are just playing to win....heheh.....it is just like not giving up a layup to lose... DD
just to clarify, getting past the fact that I think a bigger player trying to draw a charge on the smallest guy on the court is a dick move, in a competitive game what happened would have clearly called a blocking foul (if not an outright flagrant). He stepped under me, hands down, after my jump. I've had some time to think about it, and some of it was probably my fault. I was driving from the right wing and tried to finish with my left (I'm a lefty) when it looked like there wasn't going to be anyone there. If I had gone to my right, I probably could have avoided him when he stepped in. That said, the other thing that really pissed me off was while I'm still lying on the court, this jackass gets up, no worse from the collision, and says (I'm not making this up), "charge, check up." Anyway, the knee hasn't gotten any better since last night, so after work I'm gonna make an appointment with the orthopaedic guy I go to for my back. Hopefully it's just a sprain.
I come from the school of pickup where you are only allowed to call a foul on yourself...not the opponent. The honor code. Makes everything a lot simpler, and it speeds up the game. no damn arguing. And it isn't like there was just one place I played. Every place I've ever played used the honor code. I would never call a foul on the opponent. So what if an offensive player pushes you. Call him a p***y and keep playing...don't argue. The rest of the players will realize what he it doing. It's just a pickup game after all, and I hate wasting time arguing about bs. Oh, and, charging calls have no place in pickup. none
I hope your knee injury isn't serious. I am pretty sure I have a messed up knee, but I haven't gone to the doctor to confirm. I would not recommend the same strategy.
I think one thing needs to be clear. Charging calls are perfectly fine. If I'm standing there and some bozo decides to run me over then that better be a foul. Drawing charges on the other hand is absurd and if anyone is actively trying to draw a charge then they are nuts. This isn't the NBA and that's a good way to get someone hurt (as demonstrated by the OP). It's a pickup game for god's sake.
You would have to knock me over for me to call a body foul on you. The only foul I call ever is a shooting foul where they hit my arm and it effects the shot. You don't call charges is pick up basketball because people don't try to draw charges in pickup basketball. That's dumb. You are playing with the wrong people. The only time an offensive foul should ever be called is a blatant push off or if someone lowers their shoulder to bull someone over. If the person is not trying to take a charge like a b****, the latter probably should never be called.
Since we are on the topic, what if you do the completely opposite of taking a charge? I usually get clowned on for that because I dive out of ppl's way. I'm delicate like that.
I think people that draw charges, are a joke. Play by the honor code. Call a foul if you feel you committed one. Charges only hurt people. And if your charge is not painful, you are probably flopping in some form. Most pick up ballers never have come across it and when you do it, they will get pissed. Stop being a pansy, jump straight up and try and block a shot. If there going to call it anyways, let everyone turn on him. Where I play, if it's a bs call, the person that calls it gets laughed and and it's dismissed. And the worst thing in pickup ball is playing a game when the other team has a girl play. It brings down the physicality of the game. You can't play hard, and if you do it's frowned upon. That's the worst.
And if you get run over by the offensive player, it should be called a charge. Trying to "take" a charge in pickup game is bush league, if a you play tight defense and your guy's going right and you beat him to the spot, that's perfectly ok to call a charge if he runs you over. Leaving your man to run in front of the offensive player a the last second is horse**** too.
I've never seen anyone try and take a charge during a pick up game. I've be on both sides before where there's no where to go and an accidental charge happens... sometimes you'll call it, sometimes you wont. But still, never seen someone intentionally pick one up. He obviously doesn't play alot of pickup games with good players or else his ass would get laughed off the court for trying something like that.
This is why all the new players sucked in defence and need to be put on bench for years to learn how to defend. This is also why NBA changed their rule to let athletic monkeys drives to the hoop at ease and made current NBA games sucked.
Hell yeah I do that too. When someone much taller and bigger than me makes a hard drive and I'm the last one back, I'd sweep the floor and roll out the carpet. No point in risking physical injury when he runs me over while I try to foul him or emotional injury when I get schooled the **** out. One time at UH rec some guy probably around 6'1-6'3 beat all 4 of my teammates and went for the drive. I was the last man goal tending like a clueless sap when I saw this guy 3 feet away. I think he had like a 1 second head start in jumping for a layup before I jumped. Incredibly I came down way before he did, got knocked off a bit, and dude got the And 1. **** you superior genes!
