The rankings are based on who is playing better now. I would put UT ahead of OU based upon OU losing to an unranked team. They can not move the OU-UT game as it is in Dallas to coincide with the state fair. However, if there ever was a situation that called for a home and home series versus the Dallas weekend, this is it. If the UT game against OU was in Austin, UT would win....if it was in Oklahoma..OU would win...and a nuetral site is a toss up, with OU getting the better of UT this year. The bottom line is that there is not one dominate team in college football this year. Ohio State is perhaps the weakest 11-0 major college team in years. Miami is overated, though they are clearly the best. UT has a tendency to choke in big games....see OU, and the Big 12 championship last year for proof. Washington State is good, but not beating teams soundly. Iowa lost to ISU again for the 4th straight year, good but not great. Oklamhoma is prone to losing to lesser teams...A&M this year, OSU last year. In my mind the whole thing cries for one thing only.... COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF !!! DaDakota
Any chance if Miami and OSU wins out that OU and UT play each other in a BCS bowl? Also, FWIW, Texas Tech controls its own destiny for a BCS Bowl as well. Yeah, I think this is possible. Assuming ND loses again, the Rose Bowl would take WashSt and Iowa. That leaves FSU, Georgia, Texas, and OU for the Sugar & Orange bowls (of course this could change depending on FSU-NCState, etc). It depends if the bowls agree to try to get two decent games (Texas-Georgia, OU-FlaSt?), or one good game (TX-OU) and one blah game (FSU-Georgia). Although, it would be funny if Tech blew it all up by winning out. The B12 has had 5 different champions in its 6 years. It's K-State or Tech's turn now!
I'm not gonna worry about this till 12/9. I can't get worked up about it anymore. It's futile. THings should workout the way it should. BTW, hypothetical: If OSU loses, who would be #2 in the AP? WSU? I would have to say UT would be ahead of them because UT's loss would be to a better opponent (OU vs OSU). If the AP guys still put WSU ahead of Texas, then I will assume that their is some sort of anti-Texas bias in the media. Actually, if Texas is impressive in Lubbock, they could jump WSU next week. OU could beat Baylor 41-0 and it shouldn't matter. Not worried about the coaches. If OSU loses, and Texas beats Tech, UT would be #2. No doubt about it. Regardless, let's just sit back and enjoy the show.
I thought I heard this was under consideration. I heard that OU wanted to move the series to a home and home and then play at the Cotton Bowl on every 3rd year. I can't remember where I heard this but I think it was on the radio during the UT-OU game this year.
Castor, That would be great, but I think both coaches kind of like the nuetrality of the game. No one really has an advantage and if Mack had his best team, I am sure he would rather play in a nuetral site then at OU. However, it would be great to see it be a home and home. DD
Texas-OU Game Could Move In Future Years Texas Motor Speedway officials are discussing hosting the annual grudge match to accomodate up to 150,000 fans. Oct 9, 2002 DALLAS (AP) - About 75,000 fans, half wearing crimson and the other half in burnt orange, will cram into the Cotton Bowl on Saturday to watch No. 2 Oklahoma play No. 3 Texas. Imagine nearly twice as many Longhorns and Sooners fans being able to attend the game. Texas Motor Speedway general manager Eddie Gossage has the place that could accommodate such a crowd, and would like to talk to both schools about the possibility of moving the annual Big 12 grudge match to the racing facility after next year's game. Gossage admits the idea seems far-fetched at first glance, but he has detailed information to explain how the plan could work. He believes the frontstretch of the 1½-mile track could be the configured to comfortably seat 125,000-150,000 spectators with the playing field set up on the track's grass infield. "That would give both schools the ability to accommodate all their season ticket holders," Gossage told The Dallas Morning News. "Thousands of fans are left out now, but it doesn't have to be that way." Both Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione and Texas counterpart DeLoss Dodds told the newspaper they would be willing to consider a proposal from TMS. The contract the schools have to play their game at the Cotton Bowl during the State Fair of Texas runs through next season.
Texas lost to the # 3 team in the country. OU lost to an unranked team. and OU has 1 better win(top 5 in UT), 1 comparable(Bama and KSU), they both beat ISU, and OU also beat a tough Colorado team.....that really has as much merit as what you said.
The washington st thing bothers me more than anything. They beat a number 15, so what. We just beat two number 17's and Nebraska on their home turf. They can't jump 3 points, no way.
1 ohio state 3.41 2 miami 4.10 3 washington state 8.77 4 oklahoma 10.05 5 texas 11.05 http://espn.go.com/abcsports/bcs/rankings_full/2002-2003.html
If a team finishes 3rd or 4th in the BCS standings, they are guarunteed to go to one of the BCS bowls if they don't already have an auto-bid, correct? Washington St. still has to play Washington (Washington is down, but anyone can win in a rivalry game, especially in state) and @ UCLA. Both of those games are very loseable for Wazzu. If WSU loses, that could potentially set up a UT-OU Sugar bowl.
That is why they play games head-to-head. You can use that logic, if OU and UT didn't face each other. Head-to-head takes precedence in any tiebreaker, and always has. Yet, UT fans think that this time, it doesn't. If the UT were in OU's position, and vice versa, UT fans would be talking about how much head-to-head counts. Fact remains that UT wouldn't have to rely on CPU rankings and SOS, QW, etc. if they actually took care of business against OU. This is what teams get for losing games.
As the resident CC.net Pac-10 follower, I see VERY LITTLE chance of UCLA or UW beating WSU. With that being said, I don't think it matters, as I feel OSU and Miami will win out.
i don't think thats necessarily true. After Colorado State beat Colorado, Colorado was still ranked abouve C-State... both teams were within 7 spots in the rankings. there is no rhyme or reason to the polls and the BCS. it all blows. in the only time I'll ever use "Rome-speak" WAR college football playoff system.
Well ISU is unranked now, so that #17 ranking you are holding onto goes out the window. KSU did move up. Also, WSU's SOS is slight higher than UT's. This might be case of WSU having the "better" loss, rankings-wise. WSU lost to #1 OSU. UT lost to #4 OU. The standings are updated weekly, meaning that the ranking of the team you beat, doesn't matter until the end of the year. The BCS doesn't give a damn if ISU was #17 AT THE TIME.
I'm not a Texas fan. And same goes for Oklahoma. They wouldn't have to worry about being "screwed" and being ranked behind Texas if they beat an unranked team they were supposed to beat.
I think this is more of a case of Washington State leading their conference, a tough conference in the Pac-10, and the Big 12 being up for grabs.
