[Official] Texans Offseason 2011

emjohn · Aug 12, 2011

Re: Brandon Harris
"He's showed that he has a high football I.Q. and good instincts on the field lately," Vance Joseph said. "He's above his time and plays like a veteran so that inside nickel spot is going to be his."
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I like the sounds of that. Pink slips for McCain and Molden.

EddieWasSnubbed said: ↑

I don't understand why everyone is so down on Jason Allen?
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I think people are keeping expectations in check, but I haven't seen many down on him. I think most are hoping he gets the starting job over Jackson, and not just because it'll bench Jackson. He's no stud, but no liability and he's very acceptable as the 4th best man in the secondary.

justtxyank · Aug 12, 2011

EddieWasSnubbed said: ↑

I don't understand why everyone is so down on Jason Allen? The guy came in here last year, played arguably the best football at corner for our team (real tough to do, I know), and led the team in interceptions...in seven games. All of this while he was trying to learn our system. He was a former first round pick, who has good size and numbers, and seems to be having a good camp. Now, the guy is on track with everyone else, as far as this new system goes, and frankly, I'm expecting to see good things out of him this year. There is no reason to be so down on the guy. He will be a good number two corner for our team this year, assuming Kubiak and Wade can get by their bias of thinking they have to play a former number just because of draft position.

Probably the only answer I will get back will be, "Well, he was released by the Dolphins, so the guy must not be that good..."
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You'd have to point out who exactly you think is down on him to get an answer to your question.

He's not a "good" player. There is a reason why he was cut in Miami. That doesn't mean he's not the best option we have at #2 though, and it doesn't mean a light can't turn on for him this year. He makes plays on the ball though and that counts for a lot.

Two Sandwiches · Aug 12, 2011

justtxyank said: ↑

You'd have to point out who exactly you think is down on him to get an answer to your question.

He's not a "good" player. There is a reason why he was cut in Miami. That doesn't mean he's not the best option we have at #2 though, and it doesn't mean a light can't turn on for him this year. He makes plays on the ball though and that counts for a lot.
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I guess, when I said down, I was mostly responding to you, and I thought (but after reading back through, I might be mistaken) other people saying he wasn't that great. I see what you're saying that he's not a " good" player. Yeah, he's not good enough to be a number one (except on last year's team), but that's not what he's here to do. As a number two corner, I think he could potentially be very good. I just hope he gets to start over Kareem.

Cannonball · Aug 12, 2011

DonnyMost said: ↑

Does anybody know Jason Allen's contract status?

I think he's making like 900K and in the final year of his rookie deal, no?

If so, we may get a really good effort out of him this year.
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Pretty close. $980K this year, free agent next year.

justtxyank · Aug 12, 2011

EddieWasSnubbed said: ↑

I guess, when I said down, I was mostly responding to you, and I thought (but after reading back through, I might be mistaken) other people saying he wasn't that great. I see what you're saying that he's not a " good" player. Yeah, he's not good enough to be a number one (except on last year's team), but that's not what he's here to do. As a number two corner, I think he could potentially be very good. I just hope he gets to start over Kareem.
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Got it. Well like I said, he's not "good" but he is "good enough" probably. I think he is our second best corner. That doesn't mean he'd probably start for most good defenses, but let's be honest, this isn't a good defense. Start the best players. Would I like an upgrade? Of course. But I'm not down on Allen. I see him for what he is. A competent player with some on the ball skills that is our best option opposite Joseph.

Two Sandwiches · Aug 12, 2011

justtxyank said: ↑

Got it. Well like I said, he's not "good" but he is "good enough" probably. I think he is our second best corner. That doesn't mean he'd probably start for most good defenses, but let's be honest, this isn't a good defense. Start the best players. Would I like an upgrade? Of course. But I'm not down on Allen. I see him for what he is. A competent player with some on the ball skills that is our best option opposite Joseph.
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I think this team can go places with the other pieces we have, combined with a Joseph and Allen duo. Of course, an upgrade would be ideal (who wouldn't want what the Eagles have at corner). I still think this defense, coupled with our awesome offense, is capable (with good coaching) of carrying us at least a couple games into the playoffs.

RedRaiderRocket · Aug 12, 2011

Nick Scurfield
RB Ben Tate (hamstring) also did not practice. Kubiak had expected him to today

I think Tate should start getting comfortable because I think he is going to be stuck in Kubiak's dog house. Sometimes you have to play through a lingering pain, and Tate seems unwilling.

justtxyank · Aug 12, 2011

EddieWasSnubbed said: ↑

I think this team can go places with the other pieces we have, combined with a Joseph and Allen duo. Of course, an upgrade would be ideal (who wouldn't want what the Eagles have at corner). I still think this defense, coupled with our awesome offense, is capable (with good coaching) of carrying us at least a couple games into the playoffs.
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I absolutely agree with everything you said here. I think Allen is just as competent as some of the guys the Saints had in their secondary during their SB year. What excites me about the secondary is for once we don't have a bunch of stone hands out there. These are guys who should pick off some passes.

DieHard Rocket · Aug 12, 2011

RedRaiderRocket said: ↑

Nick Scurfield
RB Ben Tate (hamstring) also did not practice. Kubiak had expected him to today

I think Tate should start getting comfortable because I think he is going to be stuck in Kubiak's dog house. Sometimes you have to play through a lingering pain, and Tate seems unwilling.
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I can understand Tate's apprehension after missing all of last season. His career is on the line; if he gets hurt again, he'll have the injury prone label and be out of the league in no time.

With our RB depth, I don't have a problem with him taking his time. As long as he's ready to go by the middle of the season, when our other backs might be starting to wear down or get hurt, is fine with me.

ima_drummer2k · Aug 12, 2011

On the so-called Allen hate, I think he suffers a little bit from what happened last year.

IIRC, our secondary was in the midst of SUCKING ON ICE last year when Green Bay cut a CB (what was his name?) that our fans were hoping we would sign. The Dolphins ended up signing him and cut Allen to make room. Then we signed Allen. So everyone was a little upset that we only ended up with Miami's scraps. Perhaps that is still following him around.

Is that what happened, or did I totally make that up?

Rockets34Legend · Aug 12, 2011

NickScurfield
Kubiak said the secondary practiced "very poorly" today w/ Joseph out. The DBs have been leaning on Joseph, Manning for leadership

rcoleman15 · Aug 12, 2011

Link:
http://texans.studiotigaapps.net/transcripts/august-12,-2011-am-practice.aspx

Houston Texans Transcripts
Training Camp Practice #20 (Morning)
Thursday, August 12, 2011

Head Coach Gary Kubiak:

(on the health situation today) "We added one guy to the list today. Johnathan Joseph didn't practice; groin's a little tight, so we just held him out. I would expect him back tomorrow. Other than that, the list you left with yesterday is the same. (Ben) Tate did not come on the field this morning. I was expecting him to do that, but other than that it's pretty much like we left yesterday."

(on if TE James Casey got hurt during practice) "He got hit right at the next to last play of practice. He's okay. He can't get hurt, just can't do it, got to keep going."

(on if there's a new attitude within the secondary) "Yeah, but we found out something interesting today in my opinion. They're really counting on Danieal (Manning) and Johnathan (Joseph) to be leaders and they have been. All of a sudden, Johnathan misses practice today and I thought we practiced very poorly on the back end. Nobody else took over and that's why you're here. That's part of being a team. We're dragging this morning. Somebody's got to pick somebody up. We're looking for that leadership. We're trying to find a new identity in 2011 and we're going to find it through days like this."

(on being able to fix problems in camp) "Well every team is different and I told them this to start the season. There's a chemistry to every team. There are leaders to every team. You kind of think you know who they are, but they take over every year. You don't inherit that position. Right now, we're working for leadership and for guys to take over the group, lead the group through tough times because the NFL is a tough grind. Today's a good example of that. Hopefully we learned a couple lessons today."

(on if all the hamstring injuries are because of the lack of offseason workouts) "It's interesting to me. I keep a study every year of training camp and how many guys you had to practice with each day. I've kept it ever since I was a young coach, don't have much else to do. The thing that's interesting to me is that all the things that normally happen in the first week of camp since I've been a part of football are now happening in the second. I think guys came in fresh, they were gone all offseason, they were excited to go and then the new wore off. Now we're in week two and all those nicks and those things that are normally part of the first week of camp seem to be happening a little later. That's just me, so we'll see what happens. Just a lot of little things that we got to work through and get back on the field."

(on how hard it is for RB Javarris Williams to make the team) "It's hard, but it's fair right now. He's going to play. I just told him a while ago, 'You grab 10 things you know you can do and we'll make sure we run those 10 things.' He's got a chance. There are a lot of guys missing. Kevin (Walter) wasn't feeling good later in practice. We pulled him. He's going to get a chance to play. When you can bring a guy in and be fair to him, that's about all you can do."

(on if Kevin Walter is okay) "He's fine. He just got gassed at the end of practice. We're right now about as wore out as we can be, so it's time to start reeling them back in and get ready for Monday night."

(on if all the hamstring injuries are because of the lack of offseason workouts) "I don't know. We have hamstrings every year. I think we've had quite a few. Kap could tell you that number (Director of Sports Medicine/Head Athletic Trainer Geoff Kaplan). We got hit hard at one position, so it's been difficult. All these guys are Grad One, nick-type hamstrings, so they should be back here in a week or so. It's not like we've had anything horrible happen. We've been lucky, so we'll keep our fingers crossed and keep going."

(on if he's going to play players differently on Monday because of the compressed schedule) "No, not really. I'm going to look at things exactly the same way. I've just got a few decisions to make on a couple players whether or not they play. For the most part, we'll do it the same way."
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OLB Connor Barwin:

(on if he's had a lot of growth based on his experiences) "Well there's a lot of things I've learned in those couple years playing (defense) that have carried over for sure to playing outside linebacker. Being able to take that with me has helped the transition."

(on if he thinks the 3-4 defense is a perfect fit) "Oh yeah, I definitely feel that way. I'm comfortable standing up. I think it's going to allow me to do a lot more things. I don't have any problem dropping in coverage. I think the ability to drop in coverage is something I think is just going to help me with my rush. So yeah, I still think the 3-4 is really good for me."

(on if he has a chip on his shoulder this year) "Well, I don't know if I think about it but maybe unconsciously. You definitely come out here and remember not being able to play the whole last season. I try not to think about it every day but sometimes you appreciate it a little bit more."

(on if the team needs to play angry) "I don't know about playing angry. My personal feeling is emotions go up and down. I believe you just play passionate. I think if you just play hard and play passionate I think that's the way to do it. I don't think playing angry makes you play any better because if you get angry then you start making mistakes. I think if you just play passionate that's the way you have to do it.
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WR Devard Darling:

(on how practice went) "It was great, man. It feels great to be here, back at home, having a great time on this football field."

(on if today is an emotional day for him)"It's just, I can't even explain it right now, man. Just to come out here and be a part of this team and to put this Texans helmet on, it means a lot to me."

(on what he was thinking when he was told he was getting signed) "Oh man, I was happy. I went in there, came in for a workout, they loved it, and I was happy that they wanted me to be part of the team."

(on what kept him going through his rehab last year) "Just knowing that I still have a lot to give and knowing that I have that dream of fulfilling me and my twin brother's dream of both playing in this League and I wanted to continue to do that. That's what it was, that drive just to continue on and keep pushing through."

(on if he has conversations with his late brother) "I always have conversations with him. That's all the time. He's always with me and I know he's proud of me right now."

(on him and QB Matt Schaub going way back) "We came out together. We both have the same agent so we trained for the combine together. We had a good time back then. Hopefully we can get that connection again."

(on what he would've said if someone said last year he'd be playing on Monday Night Football) "No, man. I would say bring it on. It was a long, hard road coming back from the ACL (injury). I feel good, the knee is 100 percent healthy. I'm ready to go."
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FS Shiloh Keo:

(on what he does on punt returns) "It depends on what position I'm playing. They got me at a couple different ones. Sometimes I'm just supposed to bee-line for the ball and try to make a play, and then sometimes I'm the forcer and my job is to force everything back the other way and keep (the punter) contained."

(on if coming down early helped him acclimate to the weather) "It definitely made a difference, I'll tell you that much, but it's hard to get used to this weather. It's kicked my butt every day. You look at me right now and I'm sweating from head to toe. It's definitely something you're not just going to get acclimated to. It's going to take time, but I definitely think it helped."

(on J.J. Watt doing so well in camp) "It's awesome because that's the future of this program. They chose him number one for a reason, and he's going to be a backbone of this team. When your front line is dominating like they are, you're going to be a very successful defense."

(on what it was like being on the field for the first time with the Texans) "It was awesome. Like Barry (Warner) was talking about earlier, I was down here earlier and got to meet those guys, got to build a relationship with them before camp. It was almost like it was back in college days. You're with your buddies and you're on the field for the first time."
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CB Sherrick McManis:

(on if the secondary has a chip on its shoulder) "Yeah, I feel that's the way we have to be every time we come out for practice now. We feel good together, we like the scheme, the system that the coaches provide for us and we're just trying to execute."

(on if bringing CB Johnathan Joseph and FS Danieal Manning in sparked something into the defensive backs) "We know what we have to do; we got to fight to make this team first of all and bringing those guys in is definitely a plus. They have experience; they're talking to us, helping us learn schemes and different patterns. Just the experience helps in general."

(on if bringing in CB Johnathan Joseph and FS Daneial Manning motivated him) "I'm sure, like everybody else in the room, you really don't care who they bring in. I have the mindset of once I get on this field I have to compete, I have to fight, I have to show my ability and then let the chips fall."

(on if everything seems compressed) "I guess it could be if you let it get that way but it is what it is; that's how I look at it. Once we get the information, it's our job to learn it and execute it as well as we can."
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T Eric Winston:

(on if there is an emotional leader on the offense) "Defense and offense to are so different in the sense that on defense you can have just one guy, everybody and 10 guys getting blocked, and you're alright. You don't really see it but, on offense you got to have 11 guys doing the right thing. So for me, it's not about emotion as much as it is about energy and focus. I think we have such a veteran group that has come back and returned starters that there doesn't need to be a rah-rah guy. There needs to be more of 11 guys focused on what they're doing and the attention to detail."

(on DE J.J. Watt) "He's playing good. I think he's going to be a good addition to the defense, I think he's a guy who has a lot of upside and I think it's impressive when you can step in and hold your own right out of college because there is a different pad level and there's a different motor but he's got all that stuff. So he's got a lot of work ahead of him but he's impressed a lot of people ahead of him. But at the same time, I think it's going to be a different world when you got on the field and get the real jerseys on."

(on if he's ready to hit someone other than a teammate) "Yeah, you get 10 days in, 12 days in and you're kind of tired of looking at the other guys. Things get frisky usually. You end up getting in a couple of fights around here. So, it's about that time. I think all the vets feel it that it's about that time to go get after someone else and we're excited about that. They (the New York Jets) are going to be a great test for us. It's going to be so something that they show so many fronts and so many blitzes and that's what we need. We need a lot of work on a lot of pressure and I think that teams that beat pressure are the ones that consistently win in this league so we got to be able to do it."
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Here is an article and video via NFL.com and the AP on Matt Lienart.

Source:
http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d82161700/article/still-a-texan-leinart-hasnt-given-up-on-life-as-a-starting-qb

1. Link to Video:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-preseason/09000d5d81a32ceb/Leinart-s-future

Still a Texan, Leinart hasn't given up on life as a starting QB

Associated Press
Published: Aug. 12, 2011 at 04:43 a.m

HOUSTON -- Matt Leinart knows his time is coming.

The 2004 Heisman Trophy winner is back in a reserve role with the Houston Texans, behind incumbent quarterback Matt Schaub. During the free-agent frenzy, Leinart had a chance to rejoin his college coach, Pete Carroll, in Seattle and possibly earn a starting role.

Instead, Leinart chose to return to the Texans, learn more from Schaub and coach Gary Kubiak, and bide his time.

"I did what was best for me, and this is the best fit for me, by far," Leinart said Thursday. "I still want to be a starter, that's my goal. I'm still young. I've still got a lot of ball left."

Leinart and Carroll guided USC to back-to-back national championship games after the 2004 and '05 seasons. Leinart went 37-2 as a starter in college and left as the Trojans' all-time leader in touchdown passes (99) and completion rate (65 percent).

Leinart was drafted 10th overall by the Arizona Cardinals in 2006 and appeared in 12 games as a rookie under coach Dennis Green, throwing 11 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions. He broke his collarbone in the fifth game of the next season, Kurt Warner took over and Leinart was mostly a spectator over the next 2½ seasons.

Warner retired after the 2009 season, giving Leinart a chance to run the offense. But Leinart clashed with Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt, Derek Anderson won the job in training camp, and Leinart was released last September.

"I've taken a different path, obviously," he said. "I have some starting experience. I've played well, at times, and there are times when I've struggled. It's all part of the maturation process."

The Texans signed him to a one-year contract, but Leinart didn't take a snap last season. By now, if Leinart has learned anything through his topsy-turvy NFL career, it's patience.

"It's been a roller-coaster ride, but my career goal is always to be a starter," he said. "I want to start in this league, I want to get to a Super Bowl. No matter what people say or think or believe, I'm working at that every day and waiting until my time comes."

Leinart relaxed in Southern California over the summer, working on his game and spending time with his 4-year-old son, Cole. When the lockout ended, Leinart spoke with Carroll about reuniting in Seattle.

The Texans wanted him, too, and as Leinart weighed his options, he leaned more and more toward returning to Houston. Though he didn't get on the field last season, he had clicked with Kubiak, offensive coordinator Rick Dennison and quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp. Leinart also felt comfortable in the offense, which ranked third overall in the NFL last season (387 yards per game) and fourth in passing (259 yards per game).

"Despite my relationship with Pete, I had to put that aside and really do what was best for me, in the big picture," Leinart said. "This is the best thing for my career, to be here, to learn and improve and get better under this great coaching we have here.

"It just made more sense for me to be here. It turned out to be an easy choice."

On Thursday, Leinart zipped a perfect pass to fullback James Casey down the sideline. He rolled left and overthrew tight end Owen Daniels on another play, but he was on a target with an off-balance throw to wide receiver Dorin Dickerson later in practice.

"He's a smart guy and he's really learning," Schaub said of Leinart. "It's fun to work with him. It's just the little things in our offense that he's got to pick up on and the nuances. But he's doing well."

Kubiak said Leinart will play "a great deal" in Monday's preseason opener against the New York Jets.

"He's confident and he knows our offense," Kubiak said. "He believes this offense suits him, so you see that confidence, and it's exuded every day in practice. I think we're all excited as a team. We've got so much confidence in our starter. But I think, right now, the team says, 'Hey, if something happened, we know we can keep moving forward because of the way he's practicing and the way he leads this group.' "

Leinart is still just 28, and he's encouraged by the success of Warner, Aaron Rodgers and Steve Young -- veterans who had to wait their turns before emerging as stars. He's focused on daily improvement and maintains his belief that his best NFL days are still in front of him.

"Guys have taken so many different routes in their careers," he said. "Every way is different, and you never know what's going to happen. For me, I just know that my opportunity is going to come."
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Up next is a Yahoo Sports Radio podcast interview with Wade Phillips.

Link:
http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/audioplayer/?id=http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/?p=5316

JunkyardDwg · Aug 12, 2011

Rockets34Legend said: ↑

NickScurfield
Kubiak said the secondary practiced "very poorly" today w/ Joseph out. The DBs have been leaning on Joseph, Manning for leadership
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So basically, if Joseph and Manning miss games during the season the defense is screwed. Sounds about right.

v3.0 · Aug 12, 2011

JunkyardDwg said: ↑

So basically, if Joseph and Manning miss games during the season the defense is screwed. Sounds about right.
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Quote said the secondary practiced poorly, not the whole defense. I expect big things from the front 7 this year.

Rocketman95 · Aug 12, 2011

JunkyardDwg said: ↑

So basically, if Joseph and Manning miss games during the season the defense is screwed. Sounds about right.
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most teams aren't going to do so hot if they lose their top two secondary players.

sammy · Aug 12, 2011

JunkyardDwg said: ↑

So basically, if Joseph and Manning miss games during the season the defense is screwed. Sounds about right.
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I think most (not all) defenses would be screwed if their #1 corner and starting strong safety went out with injuries.

edit: Groogrux!

rcoleman15 · Aug 12, 2011

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and here are two new vids from Texans Tv Daily...

1. Texans 2010 Recap by NFL Films (24:24)
2. NFL.com's Kirwan bullish on 2011 Texans (3:33)

Cannonball · Aug 12, 2011

ima_drummer2k said: ↑

IIRC, our secondary was in the midst of SUCKING ON ICE last year when Green Bay cut a CB (what was his name?) that our fans were hoping we would sign. The Dolphins ended up signing him and cut Allen to make room. Then we signed Allen. So everyone was a little upset that we only ended up with Miami's scraps. Perhaps that is still following him around.

Is that what happened, or did I totally make that up?
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It was Al Harris. The Packers had put him on the PUP list to start the season then later took him off it and waived him. He only played 3 games (recording 3 tackles and no other stats) for Miami but tweaked a hammy and was put on injured reserve. Allen had started 7 games for the Dolphins at that point. I'd say we got the better end of that one, especially if Allen earns a starting spot with us this year.

Nashvegas · Aug 12, 2011

For those of you with Sirius/XM Radio.....NFL Radio (Channel 88) will be broadcasting from the Texans training camp today from 2pm-6pm

Movin' The Chains @ Texans Camp
Friday, August 12 ET 3:00 pm – 7:00 pm
Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan broadcast live from Texans Training camp in Houston, TX.

DonkeyMagic · Aug 12, 2011

Nashvegas said: ↑

For those of you with Sirius/XM Radio.....NFL Radio (Channel 88) will be broadcasting from the Texans training camp today from 2pm-6pm

Movin' The Chains @ Texans Camp
Friday, August 12 ET 3:00 pm – 7:00 pm
Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan broadcast live from Texans Training camp in Houston, TX.
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thanks for the heads up.

Missed the GQ, Winston and Antonio smith interviews...they were talking highly on Antonio's description of the defense.

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