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Where is Bostjan Nachbar, Rudy???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by copara, Nov 7, 2002.

  1. copara

    copara New Member

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    WORD OF ADVISE RUDY!!
    "DEVELOP YOUR ROOKIES AND GIVE THEM SOME MIN."

    I think Rudy needs to give Bostjan Nachbar some playing time to develop. The kid can not show he can shoot if he doesn't get a chance to play. Rudy keeping him on the bench will not help him or the team. He was drafted as a shooter, Please give the kid some play time to shoot.
     
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    Unfortunately, he will see very little action this year. Rice and KT will all get the nod over Bostjan. Also, when TMo comes back, it will be even more difficult to get Nachbar some minutes. The only way I see him getting any minutes at all are if our players go down with injuries or the forwards are not getting the job done at all.
     
  4. RNuss02

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    Game situations aren't the only way to let a coach know a player can play; or in your situation "shoot." Nonetheless, experience in a game, ultimately leads to the development of young players. I agree, he should get more time, but he's only a rookie, and he's foregn. Plus, when we're healthy, we have alot of guys that will play before him. Don't worry though. We didn't pick him #15 overall to ride the bench his whole career. He'll get his minutes steady and then more steady, as the season progresses. Remember that the season is just for games new.
     
  5. HoRockets

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    Rudy talked about Boki last night on Sports Radio 610. He told Boki that he needs to be patient. He has veteran guys he needs to look at first and develop. That Boki will in time earn his spot if he continues to work hard. He then mentioned some examples of his own experience when he was a rookie to Boki. He also used Othella Harrington as an example (which sucked because....). He said Othella realy wanted to play but he kept working hard in practice and when he had game time, he went out there and showed his stuff. He was patient and kept working hard at it. Eventually his efforts earned him a starting position as soon as he went to a new team (Knicks). That part of the interview didn't go over well with me as you can see why. :(
     
  6. Yetti

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    If Rice is going to last as far as the Post Season, he should play Rice /Nachbar in alternate Games! If not expect Nachbar to play the second 41 games, with Rice out for the Season!
     
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    Don't forget there's Tmo, KT, and Hawkins in the SF rotation too.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    I wouldn't mind it if Rice never played another minute for the Rockets. He may be the starter, but he hasn't really done anything at all for the team. I know he's a veteran, and that may be why he's out there, but I would like to see him be a veteran on the bench.

    I hope I'm wrong about Rice, and that somewhere along the way this season he finds his shot and helps the team, but so far he hasn't done it for me, since the day we traded Shandon.
     
  9. Bassfly

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    It's easy for you guys to say, let xxx play. However, this is a competitive team that needs to win all the games they can get. It is semi-r****ded to disparage Rudy for sitting Boki, when obviously you don't know squat about how good he is, when Rudy has seen Boki in practice, scrimmages, etc. To assume that Rudy is sitting Boki because he wants to deprive him of minutes is rash because he knows more about his team than us. I like how everyone thinks they know more about the team than the person who works and watches them everyday.

    The same could be said about the limited minutes Ming has been getting. Rudy understands his progression better than us, yet we still have people coming over here demanding Ming get 10 shots a game when he has yet to make himself useful with 10 TOUCHES a game.
     
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    I agree. Boki should play. He should get at least 10 minutes per game.
     
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    I agree, I see no proof of this guy being ready for all these minutes. Rudy knows something we dont. I was not that impressed with him in the pre-season. i think he is another one of our guys that needs time. Be patient with him, I think the few in front of him are better than him at this point. All though it is said he can shoot, we do need someone on the court who can play some D. And as I have seen it he is a couple steps slower then the rest of the NBA on everything except for passing and shooting. Keep working BOKI you'll get your chance!!!
     
  12. Dreamshake

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    Bassfly....Very valid points, but by Rudy's own admission we need to let players like TM0, veterans who he needs to look at, develope???? Ok that makes about as much sense as boiling your own feet in water.

    Didn't Pau Gasol get off to a slow start last year? With this thinking, Pau should of waited on the bench till the Grizz took a better look at Stro Swift. Whats the point? I seriously doubt that Pau would of logged any minutes in a Rox uni last year, playing behind KT and MO T if he were a Rox. I understand bringging young players along slowly, but Rudy seems to think slowly means next to nothing in order to get the T Mo's of the world a good look, and time to develop.

    It cant hurt to find your number one pick, and your number 15 pick some decent playing time in their first years. Im not saying give Boki 20 mins a night, but 10 would be nice.
     
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    I still don't see whats so special about Hawkins. I like his hustle and defense, but him as a starter givs us 2 holes in the starting lineup. It makes it very difficult to execute and score with 2 players who really can't do anything offensively.
     
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    Okay guys you dont need 5 high scorers starting at a time. Stop thinking score score score, there is not enough balls to go around, you have to think defense too. 4 scorers plus a defense minded player that is passive but knocks down the few shots he gets... Thats more the type play we need, i would rather have a team that locks down on D than a team that puts up 110 a night... Doesnt make sense to put up 110 when your opponet put up 111 points. He is doing good, he plays Defense and hustles, he hasnt committed stupid turnovers all in all he is playing smart B-ball.. Let him keep playing his game until someone else comes along and proves they need to play before him. In other words those that dont try on defense should sit on the bench. The rockets dont have any problem scoring when they play D and get the rock on a break, or when the move the ball regardless of who ever is in the game... Defense first, Pass second, Score third. Is what our Rockets need to start thinking about... Do you all agree or disagree?
     
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    Im not saying I Disagree, but........

    The Kings and the Mavs certainly do.
     
  16. NewYorker

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    Nachbar is where he belongs...at the end of the bench.

    Opportunities at this level are not GIVEN. They are EARNED.
     
  17. WinkFan

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    Exactly which lineup includeing Hawkins has four scorers? Our current starting lineup has two.
     
  18. Manny Ramirez

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    I find it curious that we are all getting excited that Boki was drafted by us, how he was the second coming of Stokajovic, and he has this incredible range, etc., yet he is playing behind a guy who was essentially, an invite to a team's training camp in Hawkins.

    This is disappointing to me that Rudy doesn't think that a highly regarded draft pick like Nachbar is ready to play ahead of a guy that no one had even heard of 2 months ago.:(
     
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    Isn't Hawkins on the depth chart primarily as a backup SG and a SF second? If so, that makes Boki behind Rice, K.T. and T-Mo. In a year or so the battle should be between T-Mo and Boki.
     
  20. thacabbage

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    A couple of years ago, when Charles and Dream were on their last legs and Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley were both in the infancy of their careers, I screamed for Rudy to hand the keys of the franchise to the latter two. Abandon the post-up offense and try a new system for the sake of progression. Bench the Matt Bullard's and Walt Williams' to develop and nurture growth in young talent. Those teams were "running in mud" and it was important to look towards the future.

    Now, the Rockets are at a point where there is a sense of urgency to win. Their franchise player is entering his prime and is ready to win now. Their next 4 best players (Mobley, Thomas, Taylor, Cato), his supporting cast, have been together for 2 years and all have atleast 3 years of experience under their belts. The time to win is now. Their is no margin for error to waste valuable posessions developing a rookie who may not be ready to contribute. Three years ago, on a team looking towards the future, yes, but on this team playing for the present, it's win or nothing.

    From what I have seen of Nachbar, he is not yet ready to contribute consistently. He is weak defensively and is still very rusty around the basket. There is no margin for error to try and develop him on a team fighting to make the playoffs. All of you coming in here screaming for Nachbar to get minutes or Ming to get more touches need to realize that these players first need to get acclimated with the NBA before they can contribute. They cannot just be thrown into the fire, especially on a team with high expectations. I trust that Rudy will bring them along slowly and progressively increase their workload as he sees necessary.
     

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