U.A.E Ruler spends 22 million to put his name in land

well bin laden's wealth is from Saudi.

Saudi supports a wahhabi form of islam which is the most oppressive and exclusivist. Some of their views are very consistent with the taliban. Thats the thing about islam, with one billion, its not unified. Islam is not one thing or the other, its different to many others and you will find many other cultures established. But some of the things that have bought to the limelight that are offensive and extreme ideologies are things that saudi supports, it doesn't value pluralism and progression(although the quran has cases for both of these) and is rather oppressive to women too(even though the quran has answers for these too) so indirectly many of these extreme ideas are apart of the issues that breed terrorism. Its undeniably something that should be looked at if us polices all these things in the world, its just odd to me that they get a free pass bc of business. It just shows anterior motive.

To hear the politicians even they are extreme say things like islam poses a threat on the west and all that bs jihad, why dont you see it with canada, why were the same guys you say are just brought up to believe to hate and be against the west and want to impose themselves on us not wanting to do that to a country just like ours socially and in demographics, why were the same people in business with the us under regan and he respected them highly and they had no issues with them now. It was the same religion right? Maybe...just maybe its more political in nature and about policies, its sad that people are still oblivious to that

 

I genuinely don't think its Islamic. I think the voice and vocabulary they use is Islamic, and that is about it. Think about who they have killed the most? Muslims. In pakistan, afghanistan and beyond, there are terrorist kidnappings, bombings, oppression, fairly daily. They don't spare anyone, they are just exclusivist to anyone who doesn't see things there way including there supposed own kind.


Not only that, the answers are in the holy text too. For when it does refer to war, often for a context of a certain time, there are numerous other parts about killing innocents, about jews/christians being brothers, and that there are many ways to salvation not just one ideology. On top of that there is mention of respect and regard for women, etc. You can find versus in the bible as well that is gruesome, violent, and calls for people who don't accept jesus, including your own family to be stoned. Its in there and it doesn't mean that the religion is the issue, because the general theme is about forgiveness and a spiritual journey. This is similar with Islam.


Its sad to see people make it an islam thing, or an islam vs thing not only because it groups people like myself who have nothing to do with and don't feel i share any views or beliefs with these people(and I am a muslim with some descent from pakistan) who find them to be an enemy not just as an American but as a Mulsim, but in the end of the day all people do is give them credibility when they say that. If its political only or material, then that is one thing, but what motivates them to say its a reiligious battle, its something divine they are meant to defend as muslims. The media and so on needs to stop dignifying them at that an make these cowards feel like they are assholes. If some crazy supremacist says he killed people because he is a true american or a true christian(kkk considers themselves religious generally), that doesn't make american or christian ideology, that makes tht crazy guy an extremist. When we start saying hes this or that, we dignify him and give him more credit than he is due. Thats why I do realize the voice they use is islamic, but for us to accept that and overlook the facts just feeds them more.

 

you're still not getting the point I am trying to make, there's no doubt that in that case they use christianity as a vehicle and voice to justify and even glorify their actions and that on other cases they have used islam as the voice to justify/glorify there actions, yet the facts are when the religion says otherwise as well, should we really be dignifying their cause saying yea you guys are ultra religious or doing this for your religion. You just rile them up and make them feel like its some sort of divine fight that they are meant to do. The fact is they are killing muslims, christian terrorist kills christians, its very much politlca, social, or often based on other things, and the guy who is crazy, inpoverty, or has political issues probably would use something else as an excuse if he was something else. We should just recognize insanity, crazy and label it appropriately rather than helping/dignifying their cause in my opinion.

Do we really want to support them and rile them up and make them feel like what they what they are doing is right? Then when we say its about the religion, that is what we are doing. Regardless if its christian, muslim, whatever even the guys doing it for the 'government', its some extremist manipulating some sort of system or institution to justify his own insanity and i feel it should be labeled as such.

 

no, that isn't my point. I very well realize that they say its for a jihad and yada yada, I am saying they are misguided when they say that as the answers on the prophet's version on the jihad are fairly clear, but they are hearing what they want to make it some divine fight, when you are misguided adn say yes its the religion that tells them to do this, all you do is tell them, yea you're right to believe and think this rather look, you are misguided the religion says this is wrong right here and here, and see there answers there adn how they gain support without using religion.

I know what they say, but its our responsibility to be educated and informed to be able to understand the truth better and to prevent other issues with this as well. My point is not to take out a stain on islam, all the religions have had their wards so on, and often they are just people manipulating acient contexts to suit their visions. I am saying this can help differentiate and stop grouping people like them who I have nothing to do with and people like myself under one umbrella.

 

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