How many players will go international, what is the impact on the NBA?

Anyone that's a free agent would be smart to make the jump. I honestly expect this to be a bad lockout and don't think it's long odds that we'll lose the season.

Anyone that was dumb enough to not save their cash will probably go. Foreign guys like Peja would also make sense - they aren't impacted by the roster clauses if they go home.

 

samfisher should be all over this thread.

 

Sonny Weems went to Lithuania a couple days ago.

I don't think the threat of players overseas going overseas is that big. The guys most likely to go are guys that are minimum-contract guys who are free agents like Weems. European teams have limited financial clout and roster spots to go after the bigger names, who don't really need the money during the lockout anyways, since they'll still be getting endorsement checks. Besides, they could just join up and do an overseas tour of China or something to raise funds.

 

Let em go, we don't need the drama queens.

 

I think long term, this is a good move for the nba. It is already becoming a global sport but imagine if other superstars go play in europe, china, etc. Those clubs will see increase in popularity and when the lock out ends and they all come back, those international fans will have even more reason to watch the nba and cheer on their "home town" players.

 

Does anyone else see the irony that the only leverage the owners have is threatening the loss of the players guaranteed money, But that is exactly what the want to do away with in the new cba

 

Heres a list!

http://hoopshype.com/overseas.htm

 

David Andersen
New Orleans

Montepaschi Siena (Italy)

$2,500,000

Kenny Grant

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/overseas.htm#ixzz1RTgS91LR


WHAT??? He's worth 2.5mil after tax???

 

If more stars like D-Will play overseas it's great for the NBA, gives them international exposure to showcase their stars. Like a prolonged exhibition.

 

I think the owners are about to learn a lesson in who runs the NBA, and rightfully so.

GO UNION!

 

How so? There really aren't any FAs available this season that could have a real negative impact if they were gone for good. If you are under contract currently, you have to come back when the lockout is over. The only real threat isn't resolved till next summer, and Williams, Paul, and/or Dwight go overseas permanently. But that would be career suicide for them, and the NBA really has much bigger things to worry about if the lockout goes that long.

 

exactly

 

Most of the european clubs are having a lot of problems with paying a lot to NBA players but the most crucial part is the fact that they can't afford to pay on insurance so no massive relocations at all

 

Very few players will go to Europe and the impact on the NBA will be nil.

 

You're not getting the point. You say "when the lockout is over" they have to come back. Step back from the statement of yours for a second.

who determines when the lockout is over?

The owners bank on the players folding. Why fold when you are making money in Europe?

understand. This may or may not happen, but if the Union creates a mass exodus the owners are the ones who will fold.

GO UNION!

 

Ok, now let's step back from the statement of yours for a second and think about things.

Deron Williams is due to make $16.3M in salary this year in the NBA. He's reportedly to be paid $5M to play in Turkey.

There are limitations on the number of US players allowed on non-NBA teams so only a small number of players would even have the chance to play overseas.

If an NBA player is hurt while playing in non-NBA games then their team could void their contract.

So, there are limited positions open and they entail a 66% pay cut and an additonal risk to any guaraneed money that the player may still be owed in the NBA? How in the world is that a good deal?

Do you really think NBA players want to take that kind of pay cut? From a strictly monetary perspective, it would be smarter to just agree to the owners proposed CBA and be done with it. They'd end up making a lot more money and everyone would be back at work.

To anwer your question of "When is the lockout over" the answer is simple...when a new collective bargaining agreement is signed. All NBA players get an equal vote so I'm guessing that the non-stars of the league aren't likely to sit out too long.

I'm not following your logic on the owners folding. The majority of the teams were losing money so they are actually better off financially by not playing rather than playing under the terms of the old CBA. Also every NBA owner is a billionaire/millionaire who doesn't depend on the NBA for their primary income. The non-NBA market price for as star like Deron Williams is a pay cut of over 66%. How does that add up to the owners having to fold? I'm just not seeing it.