Rockets Targeting Thompson, Biyombo In Efforts To Move Up

maybbe, maybbe no

 

No to both. Thompson is a hustle guy and doesn't need plays called for him. Scola better be on the way out if we land him.

He would go anywhere from 10-15 next summer.

 

He means Klay Thompson!

 

I'd live with these guys if we stay at 14, but I don't think they're worth moving up for at all.

What is the point of Biyombo when you already have Chuck Hayes? His ceiling seems to be a shorter Nene Hilario. And why Thompson if he doesn't project to be better than either Scola or Patterson?

If we're swinging for the fences, swing for Kanter, Valanciunas, Leonard...maybe Singleton if he won't be there at 14.

I'm hoping and praying Morey pulls out a rabbit...and not another Thabeet dud.

 

Biyombo is way way way way way way way way more athletic than Chuck Hayes.....

Not saying he will be as good in the NBA, but his ceiling is a lot lot lot lot lot lot lot higher.

DD

 

If we trade valuable assets to move up in the draft to get Biyombo, I will be pretty upset. I don't even want him at #14. If he falls to us at #23 (doubtful), and Morey is ok with drafting him there, then I am ok with that.

 

Okay I'll give you that, there's not a lot of footage of him, he only played 14 games in the ACB league. But even in the games he did play, you could see the defensive intensity this kid played with. But given that it was in limited time, it definitely makes him a gamble. But the type of gamble we must take. Were not in position to play it safe anymore, given our level of mediocrity.

Also the guys he played against in the Hoop Summit, were a good majority of the projected lottery talent of the 2012 NBA Draft, including the projected #1 overall pick 6'10 Anthony Davis... so they weren't just "guys who are 6'2"..

As far as the players you would take over him... IMO Klay Thompson is an off the ball player that would struggle in isolation(creatin space off the dribble) and finishing at the rim. Also I think his lack of quickness and athlitic ability will hurt him on the defensive end. As far as Jimmer Fredette goes the guys defense and ability to make the transition to PG are still question, AND Kemba... well I actually like Kemba(I would consider him over Biyombo), but he will need to alter his mind set from being the #1 scoring option to a play maker. Which seen with Russell Westbrook can be tough.

 

Mohamed Saer Sene. Same hype. Same age and same skills. Beasted in the same game and drafted 10th overall in 2006.

Same Future for Biyombo.

 

I just don't believe that Morey would give up so much for a player like Biyombo. Doesn't fit his MO at all.

It has smokescreen written all over it.

 

DraftExpress: For those saying Bismack Biyombo is just another Saer Sene, he's been doing this same stuff for a while now in the ACB. Totally different.
2011-04-09 11:43:12

DraftExpress: Saer Sene couldn't get off the bench for Pepinster, the worst team in Belgium. Bismack Biyombo plays for a playoff team in Spain.
2011-04-09 11:49:57

http://www.draftexpress.com/twitter.php

 

and this is based on what?? i swear some ppl talk out of their a** sometimes..

 

Exactly my thoughts. Partly due to this article, I'm expecting to see us NOT take either of these guys.

Pugs

 

Biyombo is 3 inches taller and way more athletic than Chuck is. Not saying he will be better than Chuck, but if he could be a 6'9" version of Chuck, that would be a great pick for us. Even a shorter Nene would be pretty decent.

Not sure you can say TT doesn't project to be better than Scola or PPat. Maybe that can be said for next season, but he's got a ton of potential on top of a very productive freshman season. He has a very high ceiling IMO.

 

Sorry, but watching Biyombo offensively on film, I have a hard time envisioning him coming up with creative ways to put the ball in the basket. His offensive upside is incredibly limited, even in the finishing department (which is very odd given his natural ability).

He just doesn't have the offensive quickness and he has hands of stone. Watch him on film, his moves offensively are actually quite slow. Compare his quickness with the ball in his hand with Donatas Motiejunas, and you would be shocked.

let another team take that gamble

 

Thompson is a good pick. Biyombo isn't. I do not want to waste a draft pick on Biyombo.

 

Thompson would be redundant, IMO. Another undersized PF with upside. Don't we already have that with PPat? I'm assuming either Scola or PPat would be on the move if that's the case. I'm still hoping for Valanciunas by either trading up or hoping he somehow slides to us.

 

Wow, I gotta say, the resemblance is uncanny.

I don't think we can conclude that anyone who looked like Sene did will be a bust. However I think we can safely say that just because Biyombo looked the way he did, guarantees nothing.

 

IMO Klay Thompson being a good off the ball player actually benefits him at the next level especially in the Rockets offensive system. Being a college iso heavy player actually can hurt your development at the next level (see Terrence Williams) I see him as an excellent fit offensively in a system that promotes movement and passing (which he is a very skilled passer) I guess you could critic his defense but most all wing players at the college level who are the main offensive force on their team run into the same criticism time after time.

If defense is the main aspect of what they are looking for in the pick then I still rank Chris Singleton higher as a player with higher NBA prospect points who fills the need for athleticism and defense. Mainly because he his knowns outweigh Biyombo's unknowns. He doesnt play in the post, but his value is higher regardless of position.

Thats the point. I would be extremely happy is this Biyombo talk is just a smokescreen because I still stand pat that trading up to get Biyombo is a mistake above Klay Thompson, Kemba Walker, Vessely, and a few others. If they trade up to take him though with limited assets used then I will root for the kid and hope for the best. Its just a gamble I have yet to see Morey make when drafting this high in the first round.

 

Don't forget, he even dominated the great Jared Sullinger as well.