If Jason Kidd wins a title this year, what's his legacy?

not so sure. the nets traded kidd for harris, 2 first rounders, and a few role players. recently they moved harris, 2 first rounders and favors for dwill.

favors is a fair price to add in considering dwill averages 10 more points and is 10 years younger than kidd. overall i would say that the nets were able to flip an aging kidd for assets used to acquire a superstar who just happens to be a much younger and better PG right now.

 

Fair point... although I don't think the #1 picks the Mavericks surrendered were not that good, and they got out from under the Diop contract.... still, you make a valid point.

 

Well when you factor in the superb defense and back-to-back finals appearances and success BEFORE the NBA rule changes ....KIDD > nash.

 

On one hand I would say he is the most remarkable point guard since Stockton. Give me Kidd's career over Nash's. If you asked me to pick my best player and that it had to be a point guard I would choose Kidd over anyone since Stockton. On the other hand, if you asked me who would I want manning an all-star team, I would pick Paul or Deron because they don't have glaring weaknesses as a prime Kidd did.

Kidd should be considered a Legend.

 

Cousy? I give him props for being one of the pioneers of the position but Cousy in today's NBA would probably be Kirk Heinrich. Personally I'd rank Kidd ahead of Stockton, Stockton was extremely unathletic and would probably get burned on D like Nash except for the fact that he got to play for a defensive genuis like Sloan who masked his weaknesses with precise sets and dirty play.

 

That it worked out well for the Nets because they became so unbelievably awful with Harris doesn't make it a bad trade for the Mavs.

 

His legacy is to be overrated. Until he was traded to the Nets, and into the worst division in basketball, his teams were perennial playoff whipping boys, with their only success coming against a Spurs team minus Tim Duncan.

Beating mostly teams that would've failed to make the playoffs in the West, before being summarily dismissed is good, but not the thing legends are made of.

He is a good floor general, and a great passer - but his inability to shoot damned his team against anyone with a solid defense. If the Suns or the Nets couldn't get the big boys out in transition, then their offense came to a grinding halt.

I think his legacy is going to be mostly defined by who surrounded him in the NBA. His prime came at a time when the NBA was filled with players that played very self-indulgent brands of basketball, and at seemed to not understand what was going on in the game most of the time other than "I have the ball, I think I'll shoot it" and were largely unpalatable to most of America. Jason Kidd played what was referred to as a "true" point guard position that was team-oriented, and people liked that. People like traditional point guards, even if their teams seem to be painfully mediocre at times - for example, see Andre Miller's whole career.

It didn't help him direct an offense against a well set-up defense though, and that's where his legacy falls short for me.

 

well, I like the Bulls in the East to win it all, but in the first 2 rounds, they have beat two teams, that wouldnt made playoffs, if they were in the West.
and they are in the worst division this season (only division to have 1 team over 40 wins)

 

They had a great run, but they have almost no chance of beating any of the 3 remaining teams. The Heat would be their easiest matchup and it doesn't look like they are going to make it either.

Luckily for Kidd, he can hang his hat on other achievements because the 2010-11 O'Brien Trophy ain't gonna be one of them.

 

they would've won a ring by now if they kept harris.

 

Harris helped the Mavs make the nba final. We'll find out the answer to your question soon.

 

When i think of JKidd i remember a couple things. He had a monster triple double in a 2 or 3 ot game early in his career against the Rockets. It was something like 30,15, and 15. I also think about him getting to the finals with the Nets. Last but not least i think about him beating his wife.

 

Speaking bout Isiah. Too bad he is in such a bad feud with Jordan. The 92 Dream team without Isiah just make Isiah look "normal" and a big hit on his reputation to younger viewers like me.

Back to Kidd. Just for his triple doubles. HOF. Even if he win a title this year, it meant nothing much for his career. As he is winning as the 2nd fiddle and some even says his the 2nd best PG in the team.....

 

Already top 3 all-around pg....A ring will help his legacy to people that havent watched him through the years.....He's one of the best facilitators of all-time......

 

1) He isn't a SG.

2) Over the course of his career he was one of the best defenders at that position you could hope for. 4 time All-NBA Defensive team nods. 5 for the second team. Oh, and he's 3rd all time in steals.

3) PGs should be judged first and foremost on their ability to enhance the play of the team, and Kidd was easily one of the best at that.

4) 5 All-NBA first team nods, 1 second.

5) 2nd all time in assists.

6) To put things over the top, he was a triple double machine - 3rd all time.

If you're only judging him by what he's got today, you're selling him short. Easily Hall of Fame, and easily one of the top 10 PGs to ever play the game.

 

JJ Barea disagrees....

 

You're undervaluing the importance of shooting. If you want to see how a pg's inability to shoot negatively impacts his team, look at the Celtics.

 

If Kidd wins a title this year I'll be happy John Stockton never won one.

 

Not helping your argument much, given that Rondo is a top 5 PG today.

Of course you want every guy on the team to have a good shooting percentage, and classically, you want your PG to be a sniper from deep. Doesn't change the fact that their role, first and foremost, is to be a distributor and floor leader.

Kidd is a HOF PG that doesn't have a good long range jumper. You aren't going to find many PGs in the HOF that shot well but couldn't pass.

All in all, Starburys, Kenny Andersons, Kevin Johnsons, Matt Maloneys, BJ Armstrongs, Terrell Brandons, and even Steve Kerr/John Paxson types aren't elite PGs. PGs get the ball to others. That's the whole point. Scoring is bonus with them.

 

just stop mane...Not a good look!!