Martin to Morey: Treating us like assets gets you nowhere

Cuz of Morey's "genius", he's gotten a bit too much credit for having a "unique angle" that we all can't see....And cuz he's a young guy who's witty and you'd "want to have beer with", his people abilities get overstated.

Oddly it used to be that Morey was considered as keeping his business CLOSE TO THE VEST, that Morey never "tips" his moves and he comes out of nowhere. That IS true about his actual moves, his actual player acquisitions and and the players/methods involved come out of left field. But that doesnt mean Morey is always tight-lipped about his intentions.

I'm sure Morey knows people value transparency. Though I do think sometimes you CAN be "honest to a fault". And "right" all the time can suck the life out of things. Cuz you ARE correct in that there ARE no reassurances anywhere anyplace. But thats a mantra people live by, even in cutthroat business.

 

How exactly is criticizing Morey "unfair"? The guy runs his mouth way too much about collecting"assets" but our team is still bottom level in talent. What Martin is saying is Morey needs to STFU. I'm sure this is why RA doesn't want to come back

 

I absolutely agree, and I think that was the biggest factor in our 3-10 start and the biggest factor in the tough times in January and February.

 

The funny thing is Morey did all this talking about everyone is an asset and how hes going to get a star player but at the end, nothing happened. No big trades were made.

Im starting to get frustrated with Morey. I feel like he's all talk. I think he should stop talking and actually do something instead. Because this whole entire season he kept talking about everyone is expandable and how he got the package for a big trade but at the end of it all, nothing really went down except our players are not happy.

I just want less talk and more walk. Because all this trade talk from Morey did nothing but affect our players in a bad way. He built up the anticipation and at the end, two small trades were made.

Im not doubting Morey's ability to make a good big trade. Im just saying that all this rumor and talking isn't helping this team. This whole entire 10-11 season has basically been all talk.

 

Injury prone is more like when a player has a constant problem with the same injury, like a weak knee that always gets injured. That is an injury prone type of player. Kevin Martin injuries are more like freak accidents. His injuries can happen to anyone anytime. Its not like he's dealing with a re-occurring injury. If he has a bad knee or elbow or wrist that has a good chance of re-injuring then I will say he's injury prone.

The last season before this one he fell and broke his wrist. After that, it healed and he moved on. He just had a few unlucky circumstances but that doesn't mean he's injury prone.

Tmac for example is injury prone. Because he has a back and knee problem that is consistent. Same goes with Brandon Roy because his knee doesn't have any more cartilages. Some players like Yao and Oden are injury prone because their body cannot withstand the pressure and weight. Their injuries have weaken the particular area so therefore, they will never be able to stay healthy. Andrew Bynum is another case. He has a bad knee that has been weaken because of all the injuries he suffered and he will never be able to stay healthy. Those are the example of injury prone players. Because they all have a specify type of injury that most likely will occur again. Kevin Martin doesn't have those type of injuries so he's not injury prone.

 

How does Martin think he go to Houston in the first place?

 

i love DM as much as anyone here

but now that i think of it... k mart is right

Morey needs keep the "every player is an asset" mindset on the DL

LMB

 

I've mentioned it before, in other threads, Morey is too media friendly.

And didn't Les tell JVG to zip it for also being too blunt with the media?

 

Having the mindset that these guys are assets might be fine. Constantly verbalizing to the media that they are assets is what's wrong.

Whether the players are strong minded or not, it's going to give them the opinion that however their effort, they could be traded at any moment, so why give the best effort for a team that they might not be on for the long haul.

There were tons of workers at my company who failed to give their all when the economy was down in 2008. They saw hardworking people all around them be let go, so they just did enough to do what was asked and made sure they didn't make a mistake.

 

I get the impression Mr. Alexander would have been a slave owner back in the day. A good slave owner, the kind that makes sure his slaves are taken care of but still thinking it's okay to own slaves.

 

Les Alexander is the George Washington of the NBA...

 

Your moniker made your statement like 10x as funny. Dunno if its just me but that was hilarious in the fact that its pretty believable.:grin:

 

Well, let's see.

We got:

Martin for Landry and McGrady's skeleton.
Scola for Spanoulis (the Greek McGrady).
Lowry for Rafer Alston.
Courtney Lee for Ariza.

Our "core" of the team has been basically assembled through trades that, in retrospect, look very lopsided. Morey has pulled off some great ones that kept us out of the basement. Morey isn't perfect, but people need to keep an eye on the big picture. He's gotten many of the big trades right.

I didn't like the Battier trade, but it was probably pretty harmless. I doubt we would have made the playoffs even if we had kept Battier.

 

Well, he's rich and white.

Don't know how you came to the conclusion that he'd believe a specific race of people don't deserve basic human rights though.

 

Its only the talking about part he needs to stop. Keep it close to your vest who we are going after next time Morey. Dont let the entire league know we are bidding for Carmelo and Bosh so they can outbid us. Maybe just be a tiny more discreet? Maybe just a little? Do not let players know they are assets. We dont want anymore of them intentionally tanking their years on us and getting injuries to avoid trades. OK Morey? Your not the smart. Your too deliberate and not enough tactical.

 

About the slave owner thing - in today's PC world, I'm sure he would express outrage if this was coming from a high-profile source. If Justice or Feigen said that, they'd probably lose their job.

As a matter of fact, nobody knows what kind of a person they'd be if they grew up in such a radically different environment. But today, people don't make comments about what kind of a slave owner somebody else would make.

 

I'm 100% sure the Timber wolves players feel like family too.

 

Oh come on... it's not about not making trades, it's about keeping your mouth shut about it until it's done. It's about maintaining some semblance of team morale, even if it can blow up at any point with a trade.

 

Also, the Adelman comment is interesting. Martin was happy to come here to play for Adelman again. He already had to waste a few years playing for "hungry young coaches" who were more incompetent then hungry after Adelman left in Sac.

If Adelman leaves, Martin probably wouldn't mind a trade to another team anyway.