Alternate reason why we need to change coaches - we need to TANK next season

If they do what I think they will do... increase the limit on the draft to 20yo or two years out of college ... 2012 won't be as pretty as you think.

Plus I think we may see more kids think about taking the "Brandon Jennings" route to playing in Europe instead of the NCAA.

And there is no freaking excuse for tanking... losers can't magically become winners.

 

Lol at thinking about tanking even before the '11 NBA season is even over. Why don't we just tank for the next 5 years so we can have a starting 5 of top 10picks...

 

1) Why would they increase it to two years? I understood them wanting to make it a one year deal to keep the NBA out of high schools.. but I see no logic in extending it to two years.

2) Do you remember Brandon Jennings experience there? He hated it. Remember Jeremy Tyler? How'd that work? I don't think Europe is a legitimate concern.

3) Losers can't become winners in the same season.. but they can become contenders in a few years (Thunder) with the right draft picks.

 

I guess every franchise has to have its share of r****ded fans, ours seems to be kinda high though.

 

It protects players already in the NBA by keeping their jobs an extra year - there is no one at that table to speak for the NCAA players who haven't been drafted yet. Its good for current players to have less competition. Every other professional sport has this limitation. Football you have to be 3 years removed. Baseball as well... if you go to college its for more than a year. Precedent stands.

Its something that will help both sides at the table and there isn't anyone from the NCAA there to argue the point.

The only way I think more people do that or go the dleague option is because some kids just don't want to go to school. If they hear they can't go into the draft and will have to spend 2 years in college they will look for other options.

The Zombie-Sonics didn't tank to get Durant. If you recall... the Sonics won the lotto... they should have been lower. The team that tanked that year to get a number one draft pick was Boston. http://www.nba.com/thunder/news/draft_lottery_front_office.html Who instead of getting a number one pick... ended up having to TRADE to get the team they wanted.

 

Name the last two players drafted with #1 pick who won a championship with the team that drafted them.

Name the last two teams that won a championship after having the worst record in the league while still having the player drafted with the high lotto pick they received due to their bad record.

 

1) Football has the age limitation for safety concerns, which basketball doesn't have to worry about. Baseball allows players to leave for the league out of HS, but if they choose to go to college, THEN they have to stay for three years. I wouldn't mind something like that, though certainly not three years. The competition angle is interesting though.

2) I'm sure we'll have more idiots leaving HS to get paid somewhere, but I don't think it will have a profound effect on the game like many predicted several years ago.

3) I don't really believe 'tanking' exist -- to me, that implies losing on purpose. Often those teams at the top of the lottery are just that bad.. it's not like they're out there throwing the games. Sometimes good teams can get a high pick when their best players suffer significant injuries, but I really don't believe teams intentionally lose.

That said, if there was ever a time to make a Thunder-like rebuild, the 2012 draft is it.

 

Tim Duncan and David Robinson.

Nevermind, initial guesses were the Spurs (Duncan's second year) and the Rockets (Dream's 10th year)? But Spurs didn't have worst record.

 

I don't understand how people don't get this....we are too good to tank, that's what being mediocre is....changing coaches won't be the difference between tanking or not, it'll be the difference between making the playoffs or being right there or being Milwaukee in the west.....in other words, the #10 or 14th pick. Sounds nice, and i guess we're always another injury away from that, but let's face it, the only way we can "tank" to get a top 3 pick is to trade 2 of scola/lowry/martin, let Yao walk, and keep Chuck at center. All of that just isn't happening.

I dont think that minimizes what RA has done with this team though......it takes a good coach to really separate a team like this from the lower pack. You either need that extra talent, coaching, or both to get that separation.

 

Kinda funny that the only top 4 picks in the last 25 years to lead their team to a ring are Duncan, Robinson, and Elliot, lol.

 

Shaq? Billups? Odom? Gasol?

 

And Dream was not a lotto pick. Why? Because there was no lotto. Dream was a coin-flip pick.

In fact, there is no team that fit that latter description as far as I an find:

The only high lotto pick drafted by the team with the worst record that won a championship with that team is....

Sean Eilliot in his 10th year.

And that came after he spent a year in Detroit, too... so you can't say the Sputs "still" had Elliot.

 

No need to continue because you never began, lol. Shaq never led Orlando to a ring and Wade wasn't a top 4 pick.

 

I must have missed the championship parade in Orlando after Shaq, Penny and Nick Anderson defeated Hakeem Olajuwon and the Rockets.

 

"What a great idea! Let's tank the season less than 15 games into it for an inknown commodity! Not smart."

Spoiler

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=105106

 

Strong edit attempt but you miss the point, I believe.

 

Awesome

 

Yeah, I must have missed the "led their original team" part. Maybe because you never mentioned it.

 

That was rough...Horry missing 4 freebies in the end, he never recovered and retired with only one ring.

 

What are you talking about? Why would I need to restate the entire point of this thread, lol?