the statistics bonds has put up the last two seasons beg to differ. i'm not saying bonds is as good as ruth for his whole career, but the only seasons that can even be mentioned with the two bonds just had are the two ruth had in 20 and 21 (or was it 21 and 22). it's weird, i used to hate bonds, and then a funny thing happened. he was on my fantasy team this year. helping me win a fantasy league title always puts you on my good side.
Oh ****ing please. Give me a mother****ing break. Where was Bonds' hall of fame pitching stats? He's only half of the player, no matter what he does at the plate.
You cant ever compare ruth to anybody. He played in a whole diferent era. He hit more homeruns than his whole league. Is that ever going to happen again? of course not. So there will never be another ruth numbers wise. But talent wise I have a hard time seeing that, weve probaly already seen a dozen or so players who are as talented as the babe. Bonds is unquestionably the best player in the last 30 years. Past that its impossible to tell
It would have been something to see what Ruth was capable of if he took care of himself as good as Bonds has. Steroids, or not...Barry is a remarkable professional athelete. He certainly never ate 35 hot dogs, banged 5 hookers and drank a crate of whiskey before games like the Babe often did ; ). In Bonds favor, he never had the players like Ruth had around him in the Yankees line-up. Bonds run at the plate in the last two years is one of the most amazing feats in sports history and he was the player of the 90's before that. What makes Ruth the greatest player of all time to me, though, is that he completely changed the sport. He hit more home runs than *teams* did. As NYK mentioned, Ruth was a hall of fame calibre pitcher (he had the World Series consecutive scoreless innings pitched record for over 70 years, too). The career power and average numbers were simply astonishing. Aside from the numbers, Ruth still captures the national imagination. I don't think Bonds, as great as he is, will ever do that.
Ruth played in an all white watered down league... Blacks, and hispanics have made a HUGE impact on the game... Barry Bonds has faced that, AND dominated... Ruth hasn't... Ruth ever see 90mph sliders? or anything close to the pitching we have today? I think not... Ruth is great, and a legend... BUT, he isn't better than Bonds...
umm what the hell are u talking about. i'm pretty sure ruth didn't pitch in 20/21 and those were the two seasons i compared to bonds last two seasons. i know ruth had a very good pitching career early on (even had the consecutive scoreless innings in the world series record for a long time until whitey ford broke it) and that's one reason i said he was better than bonds overall. but then you apparently had an aneurysm over bonds even being mentioned with babe ruth or something. edit: just saw the other posts after NYK's. elvis, you sure about the 70 year record thing, i'm pretty sure i saw on a video that whitey ford broke that record. not exactly sure when he pitched but it wasn't 1980 something.
if i added it up correctly (hard to try to remember all the walks in each game off hand) then bonds numbers in this series are: AVG: .500 (7-14) OB%: .731 (19-26) SLG%: 1.500 (21 bases in 14 at bats) his on base plus slugging (OBPS) is freaking 2.231!!!! the highest person this year other than bonds i believe had like a 1.050 OBPS. his numbers just can't be real.
is that a fact? is it documented that he did that? his numbers are insane but i'd like to believe that's just amazing talent as opposed to steroids. the guy just does not miss mistakes or even good pitches in the strike zone. i mean steroids or not you have to be good to be in that kind of zone. ruth did to his time period what bonds has done the last 2 years. obviously ruth wasn't shooting up, maybe they're both just ahead of the pack.
This is total nonsense. For every advantage you've given Ruth I can point out similarly significant ones for Bonds. Ruth is the greatest of all-time, no doubt at all. Oh yeah, I need to change my WS prediction to Rally Monkey in 7. John Lackey makes me nervous though. Grr...
2 Questions 1. Did Ruth ever face JUICED UP pitchers? 2. Is ruth hitting more homers than teams so so much about him . . .or so little about teams back then? Rocket River BONDS . . .is the G.O.A.T. GREATEST OF ALL TIME
Babe Ruth had a 1.75 ERA in 323.7 innings in 1916. To change it to eras, he'd have a 3.30 ERA in 2001. Can Bonds do that? Certainly not. In 1920, the year he hit 59, Bob Meusel was the 2nd best hitter on the Yankees. Babe Ruth did it without Gehrig too, so don't throw out that lame excuse (Bonds probably had more help from Kent in 2001 than Ruth had in 1920). Another difference in eras is games. The Yankees never played more than 155 games during Ruth's crazy streak, and sometimes it was 152 (they varied). The streak I'm talking about is 9 out of 12 years he had a 700+ SLG%. He also had 9 out of 12 years with a 480+ OBP%. WHICH IS INSANITY. That will never, ever be touched by anyone. Dimensions: Left field: 280.58 (1923), 301 (1928); left side of bullpen gate in short left-center: 395 (1923), 402 (1928); deepest left-center: 500 (1923), 490 (1924); center field: 487 (1923); deepest right-center: 429 (1923); left side of bullpen gate in short right-center: 350 (1923); right side of bullpen gate: 344 (1937); right field 294.75 (1923), 295 (1930), 296 (1939); This guy wasn't a dead pull hitter either. In his called shot, he hit it to dead center in Wrigley, which was 436 at the time. He's easily the best of all time. No one comes close.
