Feel free to lock. [rquoter]The average age of the Astros 25-man roster on Opening Day is 28.3. The oldest player at 36 is pitcher Nelson Figueroa, who’s on his first Opening Day roster, and the youngest is Rule 5 pick Aneury Rodriguez, who’s 23. There 10 players who are 30 or older, and 15 who are under 30. The Astros will have an Opening Day payroll of $80,669,000. Here’s the breakdown of the Astros’ 2011 contracts: Top 5 Carlos Lee: $19.0 million ($18.5 million, plus $500,000 prorated signing bonus). Roy Oswalt: $10 million Brett Myers: $8.0 million ($7 million, plus $1 million prorated signing bonus). Wandy Rodriguez: $7.5 million ($7 million, plus $500,000 prorated signing bonus). Hunter Pence: $6.9 million Rest of roster/payroll [/rquoter]
Ridiculous how owned we got in that Oswalt trade. We traded a legitimate #1 on any team and ended up with Wallace and another decent prospect. And we are having to pay part of his salary.
...not the Phillies. And I don't really have any problems with the trade. We got Roy to a contender and we got a couple of good prospects. Roy was on the trading block for a loooong time, I honestly feel pretty confident that there weren't any better deals out there.
Don't really have a problem with the Oswalt trade. But that Carlos Lee contract? Yuck! It was horrible then and it's horrible now.
Yup.. feel the same way. The Astros traded a #1 starter and are paying a large chunk of his salary.... in return got a fading prospect in Wallace and another "B" prospect...
Bleh sorry I had a brain forgot I completely forgot about happ and the Lance Berkman trade with the Yankees
why are folks forgetting that we also got J.A. Happ in the Oswalt deal? you still might not like the deal, but Happ is a good #3 starter for most ML clubs.
The trade is a winner. They acquired a #3 starter and traded away a #3 starter , in addition to acquiring s starting first baseman.
Wallace is a legit prospect. He has hit at every level. He has yet to show it in the pros but he did not have a full season yet playing everyday.
He is still a prospect, but the bloom has fallen off the rose... his stock has slid for 3 straight years, and from what I have heard and read scouts were not impressed with what they saw last year with the Astros.
His stock has not slid... otherwise he wouldn't be the "center-piece" prospect in all these trades. It just so happens that first-baseman "prospects" aren't as rare (except on the Astros), and the teams that traded him had better current or future options at 1B.
Prior to the 2009 season, Baseball America had Wallace as the 40th top prospect. Prior to 2010, they had him at 27.
Exactly. Not sure why people say things as fact just because they "feel" like the "bloom has fallen off the rose". Wallace was not impressive last year, that is a fact... but it was his first stint in the majors and he had inconsistent playing time. Most all-stars start out spotty in situations like that, unless your name is Pujols.
For a team with little to no young talent, Happ and Wallace were great. On other teams and in other trades, you usually see younger prospects and might be disappointed we didn't get a blue chip super young guy...but honestly, it's not that big a deal because we needed rebuilding at the ML level also. To get a guy like Wallace who still has 5-6 years under club control and Happ with 4 (I think?) is great. Happ is an unquestioned #3 SP with the potential to be a #2 still, and Wallace can certianly become an ML caliber 1B...he just hasn't been given the chance to prove it one way or the other. The only thing that sucks is what's on this thread--paying so much of Roy's salary. But I'm sure they negotiated it. It was probably between this and getting legit pieces or finding someone to pay it and getting much, much less. And given those options, I commend Drayton for being willing to eat the cash
The guy has only been in the minors for 3 years prior to this year, IIRC. His stock has certainly not "slid" for each of those three years. That is just an incorrect statement. No one was impressed with his performance in the bigs last year, but that doesn't make him a flop. If approx 120 at-bats determines the success of a ballplayer, than Bagwell, Biggio, and Berkman should have all stunk it up for their whole career.
