Do you think the Gerald Wallace to Portland trade was lopsided?

U jelly?

 

because it happened over a month ago

 

If it were the Lakers getting him people would be whining.

 

Because it still pales in comparison to Pau for Kwame.

 

Everyone knew Wallace was on the block. If another team wanted to offer more, they could have. I think part of the objection to the Gasol trade was that it came unexpectedly and some teams didn't get a chance to beat the Lakers' bid.

 

Because everyone knew Jordan is a cheapskate, it definitely was lopsided.

 

You mean pau for Kwame and Marc Gasol, and Darrel Arthur, and the money and cap room to sign Zack Randolph.

 

Hindsight is 20/20. Marc really has surpassed 95% of people's expectations for him, nobody predicted Zack Randolph playing out of his mind in Memphis, of all places, and Arthur+Kwame for Pau is hardly a fair trade.

 

true dat

 

Of course it was lopsided, especially when you consider Przybilla has already spoken openly of going back to Portland next season.

 

The biggest issues with the Gasol deal were that they did it well before the trade deadline without fielding any competing offers, that they lowered the bar for the Lakers (they were demanding a quality young NBA player like Al Jefferson or Luol Deng when the Celtics and Bulls called, but accepted only the unproven Marc Gasol from LA), and that the former GM of the Grizzlies was a longtime Laker.

On top of that, Gasol was a MUCH better player than Wallace. Gasol led a series of very weak Grizzlies teams to the playoffs in a very tough western conference. Wallace has basically made a career of being a good player on really terrible teams.

 

Rockets could have gotten him but didn't, and I still have no idea why Morey didn't push for him harder.

 

I remember an article stating that Jordan didn't see the point of being a team that just barely made or missed the playoffs each year. It was more beneficial for the team to either be very bad or very good; anything inbetween will have you wade in mediocrity for years.


Makes sense to me, even though tanking is a fairly polarized word on the board, but if as an owner having the chance to either just make it into the playoffs or miss and get a great player in a couple of months, I would probably go ahead and try again next year.

As a fan, however, I'd rather go all in and make the playoffs each year.

 

It's Pau for Marc.

 

What kind of bull**** is this? Al Jefferson was dealt to Wolves already before the trade happened. And Memphis wouldn't trade with Bulls since Deng isn't a franchise player and they don't get cap relief out of it.

Memphis were in financial problem at that time and they wanted to cut the payroll. Kwame's contract is the only big expiring one (stars that will sign extension not in discussion) in the league.

Lakers offered Odom and Bynum for KG and McHale turned it down. He took Al Jefferson instead. Talk about insider trade.

 

Marc was a second round pick. The fact that he exceeds everyone's expectation does not mean that it was a good value AT THE TIME OF THE TRADE. A second round pick is always a throw-in in any trade. And Zach Randolph was also supposed to be a garbage signing. Memphis was not supposed to be able to attract good FAs. That's why the only one that could get was Randolph. His maturing is almost as surprising as Marc's emergence.

So in a nutshell, the value they got from trading Pau was pretty much Kwame, Arthur, a 2nd rounder, and cap room.

The Wallace trade was lopsided too. But Wallace is nowhere near Gasol's caliber. And Portland is nowhere near the Lakers' talent level.

 

Memphis were looking for financial relief, and Kwame's contract was the only big expiring in the league. That alone made it the best offer Memphis could get.

No other big expiring contract was traded by deadline.