sigh. Who said anything about verbal attacks. I was making a joke about #33. All I'm saying is had Francis, MadMax or #33 tweeted what they said in the paper or in an interview, they would have been noticed. TWont's tweets have caught the attention of the Rockets. Both Bullard and Feigen have said that it isn't helping his cause. I haven't been following them, but maybe I will go back and check. and the tweet AroundTheWord posted is clearly about Adelman...you'd have to be naive to think otherwise.
Read what people hear say about the kid... If you truly believe folks here aren't casting judgment on Terrence the person, you're fooling yourself. 99% of the comments are personal attacks. "He's dumb." "He's a tool." "He's a dick." "He's a bum." In what world is that not personal? Is that how you would like people to talk about you and how you work? And players are who they are at 24? Really? Wow. Someone should have told that to Steve Nash... Or Zach Randolph... Or Manu Ginobili... Or Chauncey Billups... Or Rip Hamilton... Or any number of guys throughout the history of the league that were considered late bloomers. Those of you who are only dealing in negative platitudes in regards to Williams are just as foolish as those who try to defend him blindly.
It ain't actually an attack. But it does show a level of immaturity that keeps him on the bench. If you believe he is talking about Adelman and I do , he is saying while the coach isn't looking I'm working. But that's the problem. Work when the coach is looking. That statement reveals a part of him I hoped wasn't true and that is he might not be coachable. If you guys remeber when Battier was working with JT and Bud explaining all the nuances of playing and Bud seemed to be sucking it in but JT said, "to me I'm not really a thinker I'm a player. I just go out and play." It wasn't the most terrible thing to say but it made me think JT wasn't going to come along as quickly with Adelman because you need to be a thinker in his system. iI's not just give me the ball and I'll score for you. That's what I see with T-Will. It's give me the ball and I'll do it all for you. Can't you see Bud and Lee don't have half the talent I do. He's not a thinker just a player. Maybe he's a little ADD so while basketball comes natural for him the nuances of playing in a system are very difficult to pick up. He is IMO the best one on one player we have. But in this league you can stop one on one players if that's all a team has. Just look at Tmac's scoring championship years and you can see that. ANd T-Will ain't no T-Mac. Imagine how many championships T-Mac would have once had he bought into a system. We are winning right now because everyone that steps on that court buys into Adelman's system. ANd are most talented player is behind Bud, Lee, Goran, Carroll and Patrick on the rotation. ANd that's after Morey traded Battier in hopes of opening up some minutes for TW. He is his own worst enemy. Adelman tried him out before and after the trade with the same results. A few highlight passes but nothing to indicate he deserves to be in the rotation. If he had a little more maturity he would knock on the coach's door and say,"Hey coach what do I got to do". And listen to whatever coach said and do it even it is keep working hard and listening and maybe next year. Yeah that's a hard pill to swallow for someone who know his talents are better than most. But as you can see with Hayes triple double sometimes it's better be the hardest worker. Right now T-will is tweeting away his career. I guess his just hoping Adelman is gone next year but he is wasting precious time and the clock is ticking. He should be showing the coach he is working and not hiding it from him when he ain't looking.
I think what he was trying to say is that terrence has not had any problems along the level of those guys. What those guys said/did almost make twill look like a saint. The funniest part is, he would have to work his way up to become as good as those guys you mentioned. Which is why we should let him tweet his career away and stop crying about his tweets or what he does in garbage time. It's not like he's in the rotation, screwing things up. As long as he keeps supporting his teammates, that is all that matters to me.
Good post, OMR. The most frustrating thing about Williams, to me, is that he played for four years under a very strict and well respected coach with a known system in Rick Pitino. Pitino has never been the kind of coach who just rolls the ball out there and lets his kids play. He commands respect, discipline, and teamwork. From everything I've seen and read, he got that out of Terrence in spades. Pitino still speaks glowingly of the kid. So, where's the disconnect, here? Is it Adelman's system? Is it Adelman personally? I'm genuinely confused when a kid who Pitino gushes over ends up butting heads with a coach like Adelman. It actually seems like he may have regressed from a maturity standpoint since leaving Louisville, which is bizarre. At first, I thought Coach was just being stubborn. Going with who he knew. I thought Terrence was legitimately excited and hungry to help this team win. Maybe all of that was the case in the beginning. At this point, though? There's no way to justify giving the guy minutes, even if he is 100% healthy. Nobody expected the team to gel the way it did post trade deadline, but they did, and now they're in the hunt to make the playoffs with a younger core. Perhaps if Terrence hadn't chosen to use the few minutes of playing time he got to pout and try to prove a point, then he could see some time ahead of Demarre or Mike Harris. As it stands today, the dude just needs to work, when the lights are on, and when the coaching staff is looking.
Seriously how did you fail to get the message he was sending out? He was saying don't judge people who are not fortunate enough to buy expensive clothes.
For a fansite, I would say the "hate" is typically pretty mild in comparison to a NY fansite with the occasional exception of an occasional knucklehead on here who probably still in high school. Most of the fans on here really only care about the way he performs on the court for the Rockets, but his tweets and occasional attitude flurry have affected his playing time and ability to help this team on the court. Plus wasted a draft pick. -Also, yes you can name to me all the NBA players who have drastically improved in their mid to late 20's, but at 24 it will extremely difficult for any coach to convince a player like this to totally change the way he plays basketball and find a way to become a role player. No NBA team will give him the keys to the car to drive and come out a winning team. He's an Iso ball-stopper, and will not make a positive impact on this team unless he all the sudden learns how to play off the ball. At 24 NBA players can get better, but they arent going to totally transform themselve into a whole new basketball player. He isnt going to all the sudden become Ray Allen. You can give me examples of people like Grant Hill, and Shaquille Oneal who have accepted smaller roles for sure, but trust me, he isnt going to change his BASKETBALL GAME anytime soon and wont be with the Rockets much longer.
No, what I'm trying to say is both Bullard and Feigen have said the Rockets have noticed his tweets and that they aren't helping his case. What you are doing is trying to ignore that comment by focusing on me trying to be funny about what the world would be like had Francis, MadMax and #33 had twitter accounts back them. Francis tweeting from Las Vegas would have been EPIC!! lol.
Well, I've noticed about 3 posts, that at least present a firsthand perspective, as far as what seemed to be an incident at the end of the game. One certainly paints a picture more benign than some here think. Since I didn't see it, I'll reserve judgment. Facts are stubborn things, though. It was fairly public that there was an issue between Williams and Avery Johnson. Avery Johnson was fired in Dallas. Maybe there was some smoke there, too. Maybe it was case of a couple of strong-willed individuals having a personality clash, on top of basketball issues. I don't know. Adelman has proven that he has no compunction in letting someone just sit, no matter what name is on their jersey. But, contrary to some early predictions, that he might not develop young talent as quickly as some would like, he has shown a willingness to play anyone he thinks has a chance to improve the team. Team. And that is probably the issue, as Old Man Rock has pointed out. But as another poster pointed out, he played under a pretty structured system in college. Maybe it's like a first love. Maybe he has tied his abilities and success to "the way we did things under Coach Patino" in his mind. Or maybe it all lies somewhere in between. Since I don't get to attend practices and haven't been able to discuss this with both sides, I can't have a truly informed opinion. Just a hunch. But as a parting thought... if Rick Patino was/is high on Williams, maybe he should be included in the search for a key to unlock (or unblock, as the case may be) his potential. If Terrence has issues concerning his new coach, the system, or whatever... I think he should ring his old coach up and have a heart-to-heart.
The Rockets played all 12 of their active players against the Nets tonight and T-Will was not one of them. Both DeMarre Carroll and Mike Harris got playing time at the end of the game. It looks like T-Will is no longer being included on the active roster. Here is a link to the box score: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310329017
Why are you guys expecting T-Will to play? It was posted days ago he was having problems with his prior surgery.
Yeah not surprised he had surgery a couple of weeks ago. He might be inactive for the rest of the season, what remains of it.
I really don't care what happened in New Jersey. That's been a second rate franchise ever since they sold Dr. J to Philly, and I'm absolutely never surprised when/if somebody clashes with the Napoleonic Avery Johnson. It was reasonable to believe and hope that what happened with him in Jersey was more of an anomaly, as opposed to his normal behavioral patterns.
I knew i wasnt the only one that saw TWILL get up and just leave the team behind before the buzzer sounded... And "POST- OPERATIVE COMPLICATIONS" lol... yea alright... Something had to be done.. Good Work @ the Rockets Managment. Go Rockets... Let the Playoff Push continue. :grin:
Is he traveling with the team? I think maybe the Rockets felt his mopey attitude was a distraction, told him to stay home, and are using this post-operative whatever as an excuse.
Terrence has turned out to be a real diappointment. Just thought about it the other day. He hasn't played in almost an entire season because of him being an idiot. Really hope he has learned a lesson. We sure have. Adelman don't play that.
Well its only his second year... and im pretty sure he played almost his entire rookie season with the Nets?
