Playing time without understanding how to play doesn't improve a player

I still say there is another point some are missing.

LOWRY and the best players deserve to play with who they want to -- who they play best with in practice and in games. Don't make them mentor a sour puss in real game time, especially during a playoff push...TWill can get minutes in blowouts. If even then.


As for Thabeet, he is doing fine with CD and the Vipers.

 

I love how so many people think Williams sucks because he doesn't get minutes. It's actually the other way around, he doesn't get minutes because he sucks and hasn't shown any signs of being a rotation player.

 

Has Williams even shown signs of being an NBA player since joining the Rockets?

I'm starting to wonder.

 

Terrence Williams has some growing up to do, but do NOT mistake his skill on the basketball floor. Supreme athleticism, skill and court vision. He would probably help us immediately If he got regular playing time, but that is not the way to handle a young person that needs to be disciplined. In the long run, this will pay off and is a huge part of player development. Break him down, and build him all the way back up.

 

he wouldn't help us immediately. you think he would play better than cbud or clee? they are both playing on high levels and understand what adelman wants from them. just because he is individually talented doesn't mean he is a better fit.

 

He's not skilled. Please stop confusing skill with "looks like he can play". If he had skills to contribute then he would be worth more than a low first rounder and he would be getting time on a team that's lost its last 4 SFs. There are plenty of head cases who still get playing time despite their mental issues because they bring something to the table.

 

If he had a different head on his shoulders he would be a pretty damn good player.

 

Ok? You could say that about Hill or anyone else with an NBA body. It still doesn't mean he's skilled. Guys like Cousins are as stupid as they come but they still produce on the floor.

 

Look, I am a big supporter of the "earn it in practice" concept and don't really want to see Terrence in the rotation at a critical time like this myself, but you CANNOT equate not playing for Rick Adelman right now to not being skilled when information is readily available that screams otherwise.

As a starter last year, Williams averaged 10.9 points, 7.3 rebounds, and 3.8 assists.

Yes, he did it on a bad team and put up a lot of shots. Still. The fact that he has skill is just a fact. Let's accept it and move on.

 

Actually some of the best math courses emphasize attempting to do a problem before you even have the skills to solve them. It teaches problem solving skills. However, your logic is spot on. When you look at players like Lowry, Brooks, and even patpat it is apparent that they are strong mainly because they fostered the mindset needed to succeed in Rick's offense. The Princeton offense is only as good as the weakest player. You really have to buy into RAs system before you can succeed.

 

I don't believe he was arguing that he plays winning basketball. He was just saying that it's a fact that Terrence Williams is skilled. It is a fact. If you believe otherwise, I worry about your ability to recognize talent.

That said, I agree with everything you said in the OP. Being skilled should not be enough to get you on the court; TWill has to show that he's willing to buy into the team concept and so far he hasn't. He wants to be the facilitator, but all we need is a replacement part -- it just isn't a good fit in Adelman's system.

If I had to choose whether Adelman or TWill comes back next year, I hope like hell they opt for Rick. But there seems to be some grumblings about a coaching change, so TWill might get another shot at fitting in next year. Who knows.

 

Some points here:

1) PP took half a season to "earn" his minutes in the team. I don't know about you but if someone like PP has to waste half his rookie year for.....nothing.....then their's something wrong with the coach. I already mentioned it in the other thread but what would happen if the Wiz had benched Wall for half a season just for the lulz? Basically that's what happened with PP, which is kinda' ironic given how we were looking for a big man this entire season.

2) Players aren't static creatures. Just because he doesn't get it right now doesn't mean he'll never get it. Ever. I agree you don't give 30 minutes to d squid, but 5-10 minute spots here or either shouldn't hurt at all, and at the same you can build the player's confidence and tell him he's doing something right. RA doesn't even play his scrub guys in blowouts, unless its like the final minute of the game. Wasted opportunities, if you ask me.

 

I agree with the OP. Repped.

 

1) What's wrong with Pat not playing for half a season. How do you know he will be so much better if he played 2-3 minutes in that first half of the season during garbage time. During the first half of the season, he practiced hard, sat, worked his ass off and learned the system well. That's why when he did get minutes, he knew his role and didn't run around like a headless chicken. He showed RA during the first half of the season he will contribute to the system and to winning, now he gets his time and is beasting. what the hell are you complaining about, the 5 minutes he didn't get during a blowout?

2) What's the point of throwing players out there just for the hell of it. I mean TWill isn't some rookie that has never seen floor time before, he got plenty of minutes in the Nets. Throwing him out there just for him to iso and doing his own thing isn't doing the team any good.

 

tldr. but i agree wholeheartedly. if he produced in practice and had a better attitude, he would be playing. i trust RA.

 

not when they play for adelman.

 

BBIQ is key.