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If your team is mathematically alive , you should root for playoffs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Ramu3, Mar 13, 2011.

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  1. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

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    I agree with the OP. No tanking. There are good players being picked outside of the lottery this season. Kemba? Nogueira? Go for the playoffs.
     
  2. Major Malcontent

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    Didn't the first suggestions that we tank start right after Yao went down, that was what...5 games in. If you want 75 games of tanking, you aren't a fan of basketball, you are a fan of flogging your salami over draft picks. (Just like some people aren't fans of baseball, they are fans of VORP or OPS or whatever).

    I pay for tickets and watch on cable tv to see athletes representing my city do their best to try and put more basketballs in the bottom of more nets than the other team, best team wins. Anything that destroys that dynamic, be it tanking, point spread watching referees I oppose.

    Now once we have been eliminated I have no problem with giving younger guys some minutes, long as whoever is on the court gives an honest effort.
     
  3. Burko

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    OP - Agreed.

    You dont give up because it starts getting hard

    You try harder.....

    No matter which way you swing it (give the young guys experience etc) Tanking is losing on purpose....
     
  4. jojolover

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    I am 100% with the OP.

    But fun with this x game..:cool:

    Chances of Morey picking the 5th best player at #10 = x

    Chances of Morey picking the 5th best player at #15 < x
     
  5. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    This isn't true at all. There is no guarantee the 10th pick will be better than the 15th pick, so you can't say the 10th pick is greater than X%.

    Rather, 15th pick= X, 10th pick=y

    Which is why tanking doesn't make sense.
     
  6. MacadamianTmac

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    Note to you: this was not witty, funny, or even statistically defensible. Try again.
     
  7. rocketblaze

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    Another anti-tanker it seem ... eh

    Look a higher pick doesn't only give you a chance at the best prospect available. But it also has trade value, and from seen in the past with Derrick Favors, it can have ton of it.

    So when the the deadline comes around once again and Orlando decides it may want to trade D.Howard due to fear that they can't resign him. A top pick prospect will look more attractive to them, then anything the current Rockets roster would have to offer.

    Which is why going after a top pick is the best and most sound strategy, and a pick in the 9-12 range gives you a better chance to trade up for a top 5 pick, then a pick in the 17-20 range. Its that simple, if you anti-tankers can't understand that maybe due to your shortsighted(ness), then all I have to say to you and other anti-tankers is good day sir... :eek:
     
  8. MacadamianTmac

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    So, you're leaving, then?
     
  9. Raven

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    It's too late to tank, unfortunately.
     
  10. rocketblaze

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    No, but I am done arguing against those shortsighted individuals, and just done arguing this topic all together.

    If you guys want to delude yourselves into thinking the rockets can make the playoffs and upset the spurs, then go right ahead. Who am I to stop you guys... :)
     
  11. Grigori

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    Well, you know how it is. You can expound 'til you're blue in the face on why eating babies is just...wrong, but it ain't gonna stop the baby eaters from arguing that babies are simply nu...tricious.
     
  12. Yonizzel

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    what about if your team only has 20 wins toward the end of the season, BUT youre charlie sheen?
     
  13. Stepping Razor

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    We should try to make the playoffs, until we are mathematically eliminated. If we're eliminated, then sure, tank to get that much better of a pick in the draft. We might as well try to get in and hopefully face the Spurs, our season and get some media coverage, vs. sitting out for an extended offseason (lockout). I want us to get a higher pick also, but whose to say that that pick will be an impact player...I think we already have enough talent to move up in the draft if need be anyway. Playoffs!!!
     
  14. Stepping Razor

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    We should try to make the playoffs, until we are mathematically eliminated. If we're eliminated, then sure, tank to get that much better of a pick in the draft. We might as well try to get in and hopefully face the Spurs, *extend our season and get some playoff media coverage (on TNT, ESPN, ABC)vs. sitting out for an extended offseason (lockout). I want us to get a higher pick also, but whose to say that that pick will be an impact player...I think we already have enough talent to move up in the draft if need be anyway. Playoffs!!!

    CORRECTED
     
  15. ashishduh

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    We're pretty much in the same boat as the Clippers, except the Clippers are even younger than we are. Both teams are one piece away from being a very good team and both have a young nucleus. Neither team needs to draft high in order to get this missing piece, it can be acquired in FA or via trades.
     
  16. roslolian

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    Tanking is never simple. For one thing, to get that top 3 Derrick Favors-esque pick means you'll have to gut your entire roster and get rid of players who actually win you games, players like Lowry, Scola, Martin and Lee. After the summer is over and you have your shiny new pick, how will you convince DH to go a team barren of talent?

    Tanking isn't always bad, but the way DM has built our roster is that we have some pretty nice YOUNG talent without having to tank. I'd rather let DM continue his course rather than blowing up everything he's managed to do the last 3-4 years.
     
  17. Codman

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    Tanking is not that black and white. Everything you mentioned is hypothetical and is not, as you wrote, a "sound" strategy. Anti-tankers aren't shortsighted. We just don't throw in the towel for the heck of a top pick that may never amount to anything.
     
  18. Ramu3

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    People need to stop assuming landing range of 10-14 ish picks will land you Dwight Howard , CP3 . First of all , Magic are contending for a title , Dwight Howard wouldn't want to come to the Rockets who are barely contending for 11th spot in the Easier West as we move along.

    Stop with the Tanking , start playing and make the playoffs. Texans have NEVER MADE THE PLAYOFFS , Astros haven't made in the playoffs in a while , they might not even make in a while going forward.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    would you rather be called a payoff team or a lotto team heading to the offseason?
     
  20. Chrisjaka

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    Ive been coming to this board a few years and I just recently post everynow & then.Im a singer songwriter and producer so I know about hard work and commitment to getting something you want accomplished.With that being said some of you guys are some of the weakest fans around I swear.Oh maybe we should be like The Twolves and lose and get picks and still lose.Gosh if I was a player I wouldnt wanna play in a city with these type of fair-weather fans.The Rockets arent that bad the fans suck worse.Peace and Go Rockets you still got a "real" fan here.
     

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