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Dick Justice: Alexander looking to replace Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Mar 9, 2011.

  1. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

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    We assembled all these Adelman players and now we arent going to bring back Adelman?

    The organization needs to figure out wtf it is doing.
     
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  2. Don FakeFan

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    Adelman will leave anyways. It is hard to work with Morey.
     
  3. Dave_78

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    You have to give the GM all the credit for recent wins. Doesn’t that say something about the coach?

    Morey had to literally perform an intervention to separate Adelman from Battier and especially Brooks and look what that has done for young guys like Budinger, Lee and maybe to some degree Patterson. Not only was Adelman refusing to develop young talent but he was costing the team wins with his decisions. I don’t want a guy who has let the game pass him by so much that he can no longer honestly judge the players he is coaching. In fact, I can’t think of a worst quality in a coach.
     
  4. OHMSS

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    Please do NOT hire Van Gundy again.
     
  5. Htown's2kFinest

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    Rockets need to develop young guys that they gave up valuable pieces to get. 1st rounder for Twill. Gave up a starter for Thabeet while freeing up the log-jam at the SF spot. But neither of them are playing and Brad Miller is still on the court. If Budinger is starting and Brad Miller is backing up our 6'6" PF that's playing center...

    Our defense will never be relevant.
    Need to get those guys playing time. Adelman isn't doing that so someone else needs too.

    Should let them play. If they make the playoffs while getting them playing time, all the better. If they don't, we probably won't be missing out on anything anyways and will have a better pick in the draft later on.
     
  6. rhino17

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    Adelman should only go out on his own terms, he is one of the best coaches in the NBA

    That being said, I dont think he would want to be here after this season

    Elston Turner or Mario Elie should be looked at as the candidates for replacement
     
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  7. cyntil8ing

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    I'd like to take a stab at answering your question. Whenever I think about a "rebuilding coach" i think about Doug Collins. If you look at what he's done historically, he's the type that seems to know how to nurture younger players to their potential. Let me cite the teams that he's coached for:

    1. The young pre-championship Bulls. - Not much to be said here. He may have had the best luck in being able to coach Jordan but, it's tough to argue that he didn't develop the other budding role players. Such young talents as Pippen, Grant, Paxson, and of course, ushered in the era of Phil Jackson from his coaching staff. All key people that went on to dominate the 90s.

    2. Pistons - Great turn around of an ailing franchise his 1st year in and eventually carried the team to the conference finals. Again, with a you nucleus of Grant Hill, Alan Houston, and Linsey Hunter.

    3. Wizards - Probably the only blip in his coaching career and his so-far shortest stint as head coach. It was the post Bulls Jordan time and a bust pick in Kwame Brown as #1. Not much you can do with what he had. Although, it has to be noted that he was coach during Rip Hamilton and Brendan Haywood's emergence as young players.

    4. Sixers - After a long hiatus as head coach, he's back and doing it again with a team that was ailing under their previous coach. He has once again turned a team to a winning record in his 1st season with a young nucleus.

    For whatever reason, he can't seem to get over the hump in post season and teams have let him go time-and-time again when the teams seem to have the seasoning to win.

    I can't say say that he's better than Adelman but he sure can develop young talent. He, in my definition, is a developmental coach. Probably what the teams that hired him had in mind in the first place. Get the young ones prepped and inject a competitive nature in them.

    I have been a fan of Adelman since the Portland days. If history is anything to go by, then I think he fares better with players that are established. He has done well with teams with mostly established players and inversely lousy with GS when they were in transition but then again, that may also be attributable to the new owner at the time. This is probably where the people get the notion of his being a vet's coach.

    It feels like apples and oranges when you compare the 2. Adelman is like the coach that gets a team on the cusp a fighting chance against the best and Collins is the coach the gives the players the ability to get to the cusp. It all depends on where your team's at.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    Well if these players can only play well under Adelman then they are not that good.
     
  9. declan32001

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    I haven't read this entire thread so I am supposing it's been pointed out that Justice said he was "guessing", but I completely agree with this post.

    I think Rox management knows Adelman is ready to retire and it wouldn't surprise me if they're scrambling around trying to find a really good NBA coach.

    But if Alexander is betting someone can develop our '09 lotto picks any better than Adelman he's really fooling himself.

    I don't think Les is that stupid.
     
  10. larsv8

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    Thats not really the point, nor is basketball that simple.

    A player can be good in one role and bad in another.

    Chris Bosh is a good basketball player. He is bad in his current role.
     
  11. rocketblaze

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    The topic of this thread makes me smile! :)
     
  12. herro

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    I would target in this order:


    Rick Barnes
    John Calipari
    JVG
    Larry Brown
    Spoelstra (if Miami runs him out of town)
     
  13. herro

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    Lavin has a good gig at St. John's, but I'd definitely consider Steve Lavin for the job as well.
     
  14. AggNRox

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    I like Mario Elie more than Elston Turner. I know Elston's role is a defense coordinator. i don't like our defense somehow for some reasons. Mario Elie was coached under Pop. I hope he learnt alot from Pop. if i were les and only two, Elston and Mario, i would pick Mario.
     
  15. SWTsig

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    bingo.

    the only way you let adelman go is if he wants to go, which would be totally understandle given our semi-rebuilding situation. dude likely wants to win a title and we're at least a few years off from competing at that level (hopefully not much more than that though).

    but if he wants to stay and les cans him i would seriously have to question les' logic it... RA is one of the best coaches in the league and it shows on the court. besides, the players obviously love him.
     
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    Just wish that whoever takes his place plays the young guys, of course, and keeps the tempo up so it doesn't turn into a boring, slow pace, run the clock offense. Like when JVG was coaching and we averaged like 80pts a night...
     
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    1st couple of post are right, seeing as we've hard the worse possible luck, I'm pretty fine with Adelman's coaching overall. He just needs to get his head straight in the last dew min of the game.
     
  18. zzpot

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    Ok, you have named Doug Collins.

    Is he going to come to Houston and take over after Adelman is gone??

    Or is there another head coach you like that is available that you think is Doug Collinsesque that we can get to take over after Adelman is gone??

    I'm asking because I don't have a name to throw in.

    I wonder how the Heat would do if Adelman took over as Head Coach for them next year. It would be interesting to see what that team would be with Adelman as head coach.


    zzpot Puff Puff :cool:
     
  19. deshen

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    This is so true, Rick Adelman is the best coach we can get. Actually the best thing rockets has done since Morey was GM.
    Go get a new GM instead.
     
  20. LongTimeFan

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    Apparently getting 18/8 makes Chris Bosh a bad player now; noted.
     

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