All these trades are hot garbage. Tyson Chandler has a healthy good year in him like every three years. Thats why the Hornets let him go.
I thought they should have got Haywood/Butler in the TMac deal or done the Chandler deal. Butler is no Martin but he's decent, and Haywood was/is a strong defender and just what we needed. I don't see why we haven't been trying to get a center for the last two years and yet the stated goal is playoffs. Also, DM would never trade Lee for 2 first rounders from the Bulls. You realize that Lee is definitely a better player than what you'd get from those picks, right? They're the Bulls.
About Amar'e.... The Knicks weren't really though of in signing him. But when it appeared that Bosh wasn't going to go there and no one else really pursued STAT, the Knicks went on ahead and took a gamble with the 5 year, $100 million contract. Rockets easily get Amar'e if they go after him hard. Why? He gets the max (6/126) in a S&T.
Revisionism In the most recent Knicks games Amare was quoted as saying "Houston wanted me badly", indicating they did in fact pursue him and letting him go was indeed the right choice since he was not going to stay here.
Maybe this has been discussed elsewhere, but can someone explain why the Rockets were not allowed to give a physical to Amare? I don't see why the Suns would care, since it was at the trade deadline. If he failed the physical it's not like they had time to move him somewhere else. So from the Suns perspective I just don't see the point.
Tyson Chandler was considered a complete chump before being traded to Dallas and having his image reinvented. I know hindsight is 20/20 but I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I "knew" this transformation was magically going to happen once he got dealt to a new team. His trade value was in the toilet for a reason. I can understand fans being bitter that the Mavs were the ones that got lucky with Chandler instead of us, but I'm also a firm believer that you make your own luck in this world.
I think it's funny when people assume what deals were offered to DM and what deals he turned down. It takes more than just DM picking up the phone and offering a trade, it also takes the other GM answering the phone and agreeing to the trade.
i am actually begining to like our trades or lack of trades. We have been on a hot tear recently and allowing our youth to develope is great. I think we all want to see what Twill has to offer and allowing the youngs to develope will help us trade for a star. most of the trades would have killed our cap space, the only trade that does hurt is the Amare
Even more one sided than that. It was Krystic, Green and a Clippers 1st round pick. No way could we match that.
If I may jump in here for a second: Tyson's problem was always health. Specifically he never took/was given enough time to get fully healthy. The Mavs trainer was at the World Games last summer and he was able to see Tyson up close and was then able to inform Mark Cuban that Chandler was really healthy and so they made that deal. This addressed what had been their greatest weakness - a lack of good post play. Now that's what is meant by making your own luck in this world.
We had no shot at any of these deals? I thought this thread was going to be about Battier for Speights/Kapono. Or Brooks/Battier for Camby (+ 1st?). Or Aaron Brooks for Johnny Flynn. Or Courtney Lee for 2 1st rounders.
The Amare deal is currently the biggest black hole in Daryl Morey's tenure as Rockets GM. The Rockets were desperate to the outside world, meaning they had to take a chance on landing a SuperStar like Amare regardless of injury history. Apparently, the Rockets front office didn't see things the same way as the rest of the world and obviously backed into the "Yao will be back next year so we aren't desperate" stance, which had already run it's course and become stale the prior two seasons. To add insult to injury, Amare goes to the one team that Houston is hoping tanks to have the opportunity to improve draft position, and now the Knicks pick is utterly worthless. Morey has done well overall, but passing on Amare because of the physical could ultimately get him fired (and should if he can't acquire a superstar in the next year). The Rockets would be a 5-6 seed right now if Amare was on the roster and would have made the playoffs last year with a bunch of veteran leadership in place. TERRIBLE decision by the Rockets front office. Just terrible.
Multiple reliable sources (Adrian Woj. of Yahoo, and Feigen) both reported that Amare's agent confirmed with the Houston front office that he would not agree to an extension with Houston. On top of that, the deal was contingent on happeing with no physical. Any team that would do that deal to trade Scola, and Battier for a Amare two month rental (which wouldn't have gotten them in the playoffs anyways) would have been out of their mind. If Amare would have confirmed that he would agree to an extension, then there is no doubt that a deal could have been done, but it was out of their hands. If you still think that it is a terrible decision with that information provided would you still make that trade???... If so, yeah...
We had a shot at Chandler before the season began. But granted Morey at the time was betting on Yao coming back (we all were). So understandably he didn't break the bank for that deal We were in the running for Gerald Wallace - again, unsure how far Morey pitched for Wallace. Battier for Spieghts/Kapono would definitely have helped. But with good young wing players and 76ers playing their best ball in a while, understandably 76ers didn't bite Brooks/Batter for Camby, pretty sure Camby has said he doesn't want to trade to a non-contender and might ask for a buy-out Aaron Brooks for Jason Flynn - Actually I'm not sure why Morey didn't bite on this. Perhaps he feels Goran + pick is a better deal than Jason Flynn? Courtney Lee for 1st 2 rounders - as I said, it is a stretch, but if we did this deal we might be about to land OJ Mayo. Highly doubtful that Memphis will trade OJ to a Wester Conference opponent though. There was a previous comment about the chicago 1st rounders not valuable - you can't say that. Tons of great players have come out of late picks, Kevin Martin eg.
