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Chase as a starter (small sample)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

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    Five Starts in his career.

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    v.Team	Date	        v.Player	MIN	FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	3P%	FTM-FTA	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS	Win/Loss
    DET	12/15/09	J. Jerebko	40	6-11	.545	1-5	.200	3-3	1.000	12	5	0	0	1	2	16	Win
    UTAH	02/27/10	C.J. Miles	39	5-12	.417	1-4	.250	3-4	.750	5	3	0	2	3	1	14	Loss
    LAC	03/25/10	R.l Butler	29	6-12	.500	2-6	.333	0-0	.000	3	1	0	0	4	1	14	Loss
    BOS	04/02/10	P. Pierce	45	9-14	.643	6-8	.750	0-0	.000	5	2	0	0	3	1	24	Win
    NJ	02/26/11	D. James	34	8-11	.727	3-4	.750	8-9	.889	6	2	0	0	2	1	27	Win
    Average of Games Started	        37.4	7-12	.570	2.6-5.4	.480	2.8-3.2	.880	6.2	2.6	0	0.20	2.6	1.2	19.2	3 / 2
    
    This is certainly not proof of what Chase will average or how he will perform as a starter going forward but it does show what he is capable of. The most impressive start IMO was against BOS where he played just as well as Paul Pierce and helped the Rockets get a victory. He has played just as well or better than everyone he has faced so far in his 5 starts.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how he will play as a starter on a nightly bases as opposed to spot starts and once teams start recognizing him as a legit threat on the offensive end. What may have been the most promising thing about Chases game last night was the fact that he was almost always in defensive position and challenged the opposing player.

    If nothing else this at least gives us a reason for hope.
     
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    The biggest difference I see about Budinger is he's actually getting open shots. He struggles when he takes contested jumpshots, which he took a lot of when he was coming off the bench. He needs a PG who looks for him every time down the court.
     
  3. Aruba77

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    Thanks for breaking it down. You're right, small sample size, but it certainly supports the notion that he's the type of player that plays better with increased minutes.

    btw: The Cleveland game is missing from your list. 30 point season high!
     
  4. durvasa

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    He didn't start against Cleveland.
     
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    The guy can definitely fill it up, and just having him in the starting lineup really opens things up on offense that we just never saw with Battier in there.

    Right now his shots are falling and it's really making everyone (including myself) get excited about what he (and the team) is capable of... but at some point he's going to struggle to hit shots and when that happens we'll see just what he's made of. Will he disappear from the game like we've come to expect from him in that situation over the past couple of seasons? Or will he continue to be aggressive and attack the basket, putting the pressure on the defense like he's done over the past two games.

    If it's the latter, then I think we've got ourselves a real basketball player.
     
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    I forgot. but he did play starter's minutes. Perhaps i'll look at his numbers when he plays starter's minutes. 30+
     
  7. Aruba77

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    just a quick, back-of-the-envelope analysis:

    I wanted to focus on just this year (2010-2011). Chase has played 29 minutes or more in just 5 games. Again, this is a small sample size, but rather than focusing on starting or coming off the bench, this focuses on "starter's minutes".

    Chase has averaged: 21.6 points and 7.4 rebounds. These are pretty impressive numbers for a young player. Now I agree that a sample size of 5 games is really too small to draw any sweeping conclusions, but it does bolster the case for playing him heavy minutes the rest of the way.
     
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    Chase and Lowry have good chemistry going back to their bench days from last year. I expect Chase to do well for the rest of the season.
     
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    You mean Chase, right?

    Also, that's a biased sample because (as a bench player, and with Battier healthy all year) Chase will naturally only get 29+ minutes if he's having a good game offensively.
     
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    I think it also helps that his guy has to LOOK FOR HIM on the offensive end.
    Battier seemed gets comfortable with a sweet spot and doesn't seem to drift
    too far from it.

    Rocket River
     
  11. J-16

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    Hey Bud!!... Keep it up! :grin:
     
  12. Aruba77

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    yes, sorry, brain-dead on a sunday morning. I meant Chase.

    Excellent point about the bias. But the flip side of that coin is that if coach needed more offense for some reason and decided to play Chase more to get scoring punch. But point taken. Focusing on this year is more relevant than going 2 years back IMHO, but i think your analysis is great. I think either way (focusing on minutes or starting), the case is well made for Chase to play heavy minutes the rest of the way.

    would widening the sample to 25 minutes be more fair?
     
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    refining my statistical ineptitude:
    Chase played 22 games this year where he played 23 minutes or more. I don't think he's shot well from the field, but i didn't include FG% because i'm short on time and headed out the door. It's an important piece of the puzzle though.

    22 games of 23+ minutes
    27.68 min. average
    13.95 ppg
    4.90 rpg
    1.95 apg

    I think those are really good numbers for a 2nd year player. basically 14/5/2 in 28 minutes.
     
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    i agree

    it's like almost half of our bench is starting
     
  16. smoothie

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    why not increase the sample size by looking at games in which he either started OR played 30+ minutes?

    even though this is a small sample size, the one thing that you can tell for sure is that he has never failed to produce substantially as a starter.
     
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    The opponents were not so good in most of those games. I want to see him play aggressive defense and maybe commit a hard foul here and there. He needs to assert himself on offense AND defense.
     
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    I think looking at minutes alone has value but I was just curious about how he did as a starter since it brings a different mentality and you are typically playing against starters and not playing against back ups.
     
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    In the sample are games against Boston and Utah, both are outstanding defensive teams. But yes I want to see more.
     
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    Many of us were disappointed that Morey was not able to pull off a big trade. But after the trade, there were some bright spots on this team. Its like we just got two new players ( Chase and T-Will) because after Battier is gone, they both have more opportunity to showcase their talents.

    Right now Chase have more room to improve and we will see whether or not he is an Nba starter. Twill is finally in the rotation so now he has a chance to prove himself as a worthy player. Both are young and incredibly talented. Who knows, maybe we have a diamond in the rough from one of these players. Maybe with the right opportunity, one of them may develop much more and become a star in this league. I mean both T-will and Chase both have the talent to become stars in this league. Both players can handle the ball, good shooting touch, athletic, good feel for the game, high IQ, and the most important thing, they both are young ( second year in the league for both).

    So we basically have two 2nd year SF on this team with a good skillset. I believe that if given the right opportunity (like right now after Shane is gone), one of them can shine into a star. I know TWill has a higher ceiling than Chase but he will have to play smart and prove to the organization that he deserves the starting SF spot just as much as Chase or even more.
     

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