Rockets trade Battier to Grizzlies for Thabeet, first round pick

Reason that he won't re-sign back in Houston next year is because Houston is in re-buildling mode, and when you are you try to give young players as much time as possible so they can develop. Therefore Shane will not have a lot of playing time.

Best case for Shane is to go to a title-contender i.e. Boston, Miami and they will be looking for Shane to execute late game on defence etc.

Shane will not come back. Move on.

 

Shane coming back after this season is, IMO, 100% not going to happen. An aging forward with only a few years left in his legs will look to go to a team like the Heat, Lakers, etc.

However, with that said, I would very much like to see Shane join the Rockets organization when his playing career is over as an assistant coach.

Or run for president

 

Shane +23 tonight WOW!

 

I don't know if it was explained before but, how come the Nets could get Deron Williams and not the Rockets?

Rockets had more assets than Nets, and a superstar should be the top priority...so, why not giving the Jazz more than what the Nets gave?

Brooks, Patterson, Chase, Hill, a bunch of first round picks....how come what the NEts gave would be superior to that?

 

^^ The Jazz didn't want to trade their franchise player to a Western Conference rival.

 

Fine, thx for the info.

However, think about it, don't you see a BIG chance to get DWill next year? He'll surely get pissed of of playing with such crappy team.

A lobby work could be done by Rockets people from now on, convincing DWill that playing for the Rockets will be better for him next season (intelligent and hard-working young players, no state taxes, and a team with future where he'll become the franchise player, without sharing such status with another).

The Rockets could make the Nets a good offer next year, with the tons of 1st round picks they have, and the good young players.

Such picks are better served with a real superstar, instead of making the roster too deep, making a lot of young prospects get pissed of by not having enough minutes, don't you think?

Do you think it's a possible strategy to pursue DWill next year?

 

Im officially off the rick adelman bandwagon after hearing his comments regarding Hasheem Thabeet, what a jerk. You are supposed to play a guy you just traded shane battier for especially with our obvious need for inside presence. Im completely in awe about how much of an A-whole he really is.

 

No way. Looking at Thabeet the thing you take away is that the guy is awfully raw. I don't know if Adelman dissed Thabeet or not but there's nothing wrong with benching him for the rest of the season.

 

If an NBA player is going to be on a bad team, they will choose New York over Houston. I don't know why. The Nets aren't interested in 1st round picks that are lower than their own lottery picks. They have been chasing veterans since the summer. Luis Scola was about to leave the Rockets for the Nets. The Nets might still be interested in Scola. I think they could do better. The Nuggets did pretty good with NY. I think the Nets could do just as well with other teams that have better assets than the Rockets.

 

I don't think he is a jerk, and I haven't been a huge Adelman fan. I don't think he has to play Thabeet, just because he came in a trade for Battier. I think Adelman was being really honest and open in his remarks about Thabeet, and I find that rather refreshing.

However, it does seem as if Adelman and Morey want to go in seperate directions, and it looks like this will be the last season for Adelman as our Head coach.

 

I admire honesty. It is refreshing.

But unless ive missed something (I do alot!), I dont see the implied difference of directions. RA was hired to coach a contending team and right now he doesnt have one. So in a fashion, RA is out of his element (he excels at working with vets and coaching in the playoffs), not so much as a developmental coach for raw untried talent.

So if you mean that Morey is handing him players in need of development rather than vets, I guess this could fit what you are saying.

But just because Morey gets us a raw 7 footer, I dont think it implies a difference of directions if RA chooses not to play him much in the near future. Getting him doesnt neccessarily mean Morey expects him to be played immediately. Does it?

And duplicating a thought I had in the game thread last night, I think it would be a mistake to fire RA for a developmental coach, only to turn around in a year or two (once we are contenders again) and fire him for a RA type coach all over again.

Before we start flipping coaches, and trying to align them to our present needs, we need a clear direction for what we are and where we are going. Certainly this would be easier if we were fully in rebuild mode, or fully a contender. But we seem to be neither at the moment.

 

It's unfortunate for Adelman because the guy was brought here to win ball games, and now... not only did the Rockets trade his 6th man, but they also traded his coach on the court. I mean the one guy in the starting lineup that Adelman pretty much never had to worry about is gone and he's forced to replace him with a player that's struggled for the most part of the season. Luckily, Chase is playing some good basketball right now, though.

As far as his comments on Thabeet... I don't see anything wrong with them at all. Hasheem got practically no playing time for Memphis, and he almost never saw the court against the Rockets, so Adelman really has no idea what the guy can do.

Eventually Thabeet will get a chance to show what he's got, but to expect Adelman to just throw him out there without knowing what he's capable of doing on offense or defense is ludicrous.

 

Adelman is clearly frustrated about the lack of stability in the roster since he took over. I don't think he's interested in coaching a rebuilding team, where the Rockets are going to be moving pieces in and out till they settle on a good core.

 

I agree about him being frustrated. But if he is thinking of going elsewhere, injuries to stars can happen to anyone, and he could possible run into the same scenario wherever he would go.

In favor of him wanting to stay, and us wanting to keep him, the Rockets do want to contend asap. At least that seems to be their goal. We didnt flip Scola & Martin for mere picks and filler. And AB and Battier we were going to lose anyway. The later we may get back if its mutually desirable.

The questions in RA's mind would have to be: How long wil it take to field a contending team again. One thats fun to coach in the style I like? How much do I dislike this situation? How easily could I improve it by going elsewhere? Should I be considering retirement?

 

As I said on the YT video...

How come a guy being paid that much, doesn't show at least a bit of emotional intelligence?

Why couldn't him try to motivate Thabeet?

Or if he wasn't willing to motivate his own player, why not at least a polite, elusive answer? what was the need of being a douchebag?

What was the reason to put down Hasheem like that?

 

Durv and Jim great posts.

 

I sense the same thing and believe he attributes this to morey.

but out of curiousity, how in the hell were we not supposed to have significant roster turnover when our two superstars degraded into salary burndens?

i can understand being upset with the outcome, but would not place blame on anything other than bad luck.

 

Send him to the Valley, he would get a lot more playing time there.

 

What did Rick say to diss Thabeet?