no, but he was the MVP, scoring champion and took his team to the finals. If Ellis could reach those accomplishments then he's definitely an elite player.
If we do trade for Monta Ellis, most likely him or Kmart will be playing the SF position, going smaller, and our S.L with Battier out would mean more Fast break points. I would love a trade for Monta, he is way underated just like Kmart was when we got him. Monta Ellis will be another underrated player that if Morey can bring in Houston for Cheap, would be another steal for Morey.
Regardless, they are very similar players (great stats, #1scorers) on very similar teams respectively. I think its an interesting comparison to see why they are similar and how they are different. I think that its important to note though that Ellis could be so much more if surrounded by better players and coaches. Therefore the Warriors might already have the player they need to be a playoff team. They just need the surrounding pieces. Not that Martin is bad, he is excellent, but Ellis could be a player who the offense can run through when they need a bucket and the opposing teams defense closes in. Ellis and Martin's lack of press has to do with media networks ESPN/ABC/TNT only really focusing on the five or six big market teams that they know will be in the final playoff picture, and the occasional Blake Griffin talk of the town who happens to play in LA. Good players on bad/mediocre teams really only get notoriety if they are doing something phenominal at the moment (like Kevin Loves' consecutive double doubles) or doing something really bad at the moment (Cousins getting in fights with teamates, demanding trades etc.)
Lebron (Media Giant Globally) Kobe( LA/West Coast) Boston(North East, large city and heavily populated surrounding area) Knicks(North East, high population, most popular city in the World) If ESPN/TNT/ ABC focused more on teams like the Rockets and say Phoenix, then all of the fans outside of one sports market listening become disinterested and turn off unless you have a global icon on your team like a Lebron/Yao. Small sports market + no global sports icon = no media coverage * Note that Houston is a large city but a relatively small sports market because of the surrounding cities and population. Houston must compete with the DFW and SA sports franchise or franchises as well. If there was one team in Texas they would bring in a fanbase the size of an LA or Boston. Plus a storied franchise history makes the brand name more iconic. The reason why Hakeem Olajuwon is mentioned on almost every Rockets broadcast is to build brand recognition. San Antonio has won more championships than Houston yet they still struggle to maintain any mass media coverage.
actually, its both. You can use jell and gel the english language evolves. whodathunkit. gell on the other hand is plain wrong. gel/jell verb come together, unite, combine, amalgamate The new players have gelled very well with the rest of the team.
b/c all he does is score, and score in an offense designed to put up points. allen iverson scored his points in a half-court slowed down offense, and was the only threat in his prime. teams feared him. nobody is scared of monta. and iverson can create much better than monta believe it or not. he's just another very good scorer in this L. until his points impact a game, nobody is going to care. the reason love is getting attention on a losing team is b/c it's a historic season for him numbers-wise. if it happens agai next year, the hype will die down.
I like the kid and wish it was possible to get him.....would love to see Martin slide to the 3 and Ellis at the 2..... I wouldnt want one without the other so a Martin/Ellis swap would just be stupid..... IT IS WRITTEN.
Ellis has got game...Anybody who follows the NBA knows what kind of upper echelon player he is...I'll never forget when he posted up Battier, backed him down, and scored on him as if he wasn't even there.
IMHO people don't really talk about him because he's not really that great. He currently scoring 25 ppg, however he takes a mind-numbing 20 shots a game to get those points. For comparison's sake my fav. whipping boy Carmelo Anthony scores 25 points on 19 shots a game, so that should already tell you something about Monta Ellis's scoring ability is less than the dude without a 3 point shot. Not only that he's also undersized at the sg slot at 6'3, you can't count on him to defend other players or set people up for passes. And no, he's not similar at all to Kevin Martin. KM scores 23 pts on 15 shots. That's like comparing a hybrid car to a hummer in terms of mileage.
that does nothing else. we have a lot of elite scorers in this L. franchise players aren't just elite scorers. we have one in kevin martin. tracy mcgrady in 07 wasn't an elite scorer, but he was a franchise player.
Low efficiency and poor passer. Monta is only a 36% 3pt shooter which is a high for his career, yet he still takes a lot of them. (For reference, Lowry shoots 35%). His TS% of 54.1% is also a high for his career. He can clearly create his own shot and finish around the rim, but not at a high percentage. Compare that to Stephen Curry, who shoots over 41% from 3 and has a TS% just below 60%. Why isn't anyone talking about Curry? Like Nash, he could be a rare player who shoots 90% from the free throw line, 50% from the field, and 40% from 3.
He's a chucker. 25 pts on 20 shots? And he does little else? Cmon it's pretty obvious why he not in the same league as the elite.
He is talked about, recently Hollinger noted that he is one of the few "franchise" players whose team production -offense and defense- increases when he is OFF the court. While his team looses a few points per posesion, the impact of him leaving the court is so good on defense that his team is better overall. http://warriors.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10522/espns-hollinger-rips-monta-ellis/
i actually think GS should build aroud curry. they are limiting his growth with monta. curry should be like kevin martin on steroids, since he is a better individual scorer with passing ability.
