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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Like I have posted and what others continue to post; it is not like we are currently winning games and seriously in the playoffs picture with the rate we are going, so what difference does it make? Can you honestly say that giving C-Bud's minutes to T-Will or AB's minutes to Ish at this point in time will result in negative season breaking fashion. The current players that drive posters insane currently have played enough games where we know that they aren't going to get a whole lot better and the Rockets' aren't going to get a whole lot better. The way I look at it, by playing the new guys more it can only end in three fashion:

    - They live up to their hype and we make a miracle push towards the playoffs. I still don't think we will get it, but they at least offer the potential of better performance than our current options.
    - They perform around the same and we finish outside of the playoffs, but idle in the late lottery, otherwise known as draft purgatory. Either way, gives our young and new guys experience and we still end up in the same place.
    - They do not live up to the hype and proceed to tank the season, resulting in higher draft position. While Brandon Roy did not necessarily turn out to be the best future franchise player for the Trailblazers, he still would have given us a lot more wins. Point is, it shows us how a couple of places in lottery position can benefit a team greatly.

    Either way, bench Battier, C-Bud, and AB, then play T-Will, Ish, and 2Pat. The worst that can happen is we end the season in continued mediocrity and realize that they will not be likely to reach expected ceiling levels. So again, what is the loss of playing new players and what have we have to lose?
     
  2. RedRedemption

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    UOF. The first and only UOF in NBA history. :eek:
     
  3. denniscd

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    there is no hype around either player except in on clutchfans where there is an epidemic of memory loss and dementia because neither player can play and thats why rick does not play them. and yes the results would be worse. if you are for tanking, fine...then play them because they will make sure we lose at a higher percentage than we do now.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    So you feel so strongly about posters who have very legitimate concerns about the coach of a team they love, which has been floundering in mediocrity the last half decade, that you are compelled to create a worthless thread on a BBS that RA will probably never read? If threads like this were the norm, hell anyone would be sorry for reading CF. :rolleyes:
     
  5. denniscd

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    someone hijacked my thread and put it under this one...mediocrity is an over achievement with this roster...
     
  6. choujie

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    I'm tire of RA's in game personal adjustment.

    On some nights, he can play AB more, he can give no minutes to Pat etc. But on some nights, he should change.

    For example, today Rocket got beat by TWolve's rebounds and by not playing defense, but RA didn't try to put people who can rebound and defend in the game, instead he played AB 20 minutes to make the matter worse.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    When you losing .. . it is easy to see what is missing
    and . . why not experiment?

    "This taste like *****"
    "Add some salt to it. . "
    "Now it taste like ***** with Salt!!"
    "Yea. . but it is ZESTY!"

    Rocket River
     
  8. nathan8

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    Not neccessarily... All the hype about T-Will's minutes has eventuated due to the fact that;
    A. He was drafted 10th last year
    B. In the home stretch he was posting 'Lebron-like' states (obviously at a lower level) which included a triple double against the Bulls
    C. He has incredible slashing, passing, jumping, rebounding and dunking ability.

    Some would class Terrence, today as a poor mans Lebron James rightfully said. I'm sorry but if the situation was reversed and C-Bud was in T-Will's position i'm sure myself and many fans would agree that there would not be such a large argument about when is he playing, why isn't he given minutes etc etc. Although, at times Budinger has proven to be a legitiment steal.

    All in all, the rotation has issues with consistency and production on a nightly basis. Too many voids to fill and it hurts to watch my Rockets work night in night out under such circumstances.
     
  9. deshen

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    I simply ignore those kind of posts.
     
  10. thetatomatis

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    Id be more tired of it if it didnt have its points and we were winning. We are not winning so I listen to whiners as much as the whiners of the whiners. They all have points but no side is totally wrong. Each side is partially right in their criticisms or praises. The only problem is each side is trying to dominate the others with their own opinions. Which as you hear it from me it says something.
     
  11. Jdawg

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    Amen...I don't know if any of you are NFL fans, but "We play to win the game"! Adelman puts the players into the game that he thinks give the team the best chance to win.
     
  12. akiracy

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    Basically
     
  13. thejav

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    Then adelman needs to go...whoever he thinks can win for us are actually causing us to lose close games..AB had shown really needs to be staples to the bench but adelman is to blind to see that...its like he didn't even watch ish play the game before...
     
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    This^^^
     
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    How do you know that? :confused: So you liked Shane getting 37 minutes, some at PF?
     
  16. deshen

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    The problem is not coach, adelman is as good as anyone in the NBA. We need a new GM.
     
  17. BONIERO1576

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    We're 4 1/2 games out of the last playoff seed. How is the season over? I am glad that the organization doesn't have this idea that if we have no chance at a title we should just fold up everything and hope for the best. This is what breeds a winning mentality and a winning culture. You never know what is going to happen so keep playing to the best of your abilities and maybe something will happen that the fans and the city can get excited about.
     
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    Because not playing these guys have us playing winning Ball? Wake up and smell the coffee, we are not winning with this core. Adelman is just trying to buff his W/L record before he leaves us. We are wasting this year away not developing our youth.
     
  19. thejav

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    The gm is not the problem at all..he has built this team to compete..yes Yao was a setback but with players we have now we should have atleast 10 more wins..its just the matter of using what u have correctly..and giving players like miller and brooks minutes over bud..ish. lee...is just inexcusible..adelman himself said he would play guys that were hot and yet he give AB 20 mins and ish who played really well the game before 0 mins..why play a guy that has no defence and no offence?? in the end coaches make the decision who plays not the gm...
     
  20. thetatomatis

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    The problem is also the fanbase is divided. There has always been the Tmac and Yao followers and supporters to destroy any movement of these players. There has always been the pro Battier crowd making it impossible to move this mid level role player. There has always been the Morey fanatics who support anything he does so there is no pressure for him to do anything. Then there are the fans who seek to see results and voice it and others shout them down and say they arent fans or they will ignore them as if they are superior or something. This is the problem. Fanbase is not united. Its divided. Each has a direction. The only problem is one side has a clear direction that has not been working for adecade now with their support for mediocre players and moves. The other is shouted down for bringing uop our teams faults. Its homerism vs improvement minded fans. This phenomenon I can observe in the Texans organization. Perhaps if there was a greater balance in accepting each others stances would also do well to change the organization besides just Morey alone. Fan pressure is just as important sometimes as owner pressure. Have to pick and choose your arguments correctly and concede if someone has a better solution than you do.
     

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