Why don't Rockets players trust the Rockets organization?

It doesn't matter because the Rockets won't even negotiate. That's the whole problem.

 

Proof that the Rockets don't even negotiate extensions? They don't actively offer them for good reason, but like I and others have said, if Brooks walks in and says, "I'll be fine with a $4 million for an extension", I'm sure we say yes.

Not to mention you have to be careful with the amount you offer in an extension, so negotiating is difficult. Offer too little, you insult the player who can't believe he's worth that little. Offer too much, you get Rip Hamilton.

 

The Rockets have had a policy of not extending their players and they're just following it. Of course policies always have exceptions like giving Ariza that player option, but Brooks hasn't done anything to warrant that type of exception. I doubt the Rockets would refuse an extension with Carmelo or Post injury Yao, but the point is Brooks isn't the alpha-dog player. We, especially, shouldn't extend him now that he's playing horribly and flaking on the team.

 

The point is those guys weren't proven in the sense that they were the best player on the team for an entire year. And let's not forget the year before that, when Brooks was probably their best or 2nd-best player in the playoffs when they finally advanced to the 2nd round and took LA to 7.

For Lowry to be extended early, he would have had to be extended after his first year with the Rockets, after he played only 28 games as a backup. Scola would have had to be extended at the same time. Their play was not as worthy of an extension to that point.

 

"We've asked for an extension every year since I've been here because this is the place I wanted to be," Battier said. "They've said, 'We're not doing extensions. We're not doing extensions.' After hearing that for a while, you'd get the sneaking suspicions you're not in their future plans."

 

He might get a contract if he proved he was worthy of a starting position.

This is the 2nd straight year that Lowry has outplayed him, badly.

 

You know what guys.. AB had 1 great season. It would have been stupid of Morey to offer him a good contract based on a season. This season has been disaster for him... I don't see Morey taking a risk of giving him extentsion until he proves he can play like last year.

Suppose Morey offers him a good deal and we find out that real Brooks is not the one we saw last year, who will we blame? Brooks for signing the deal or Morey for offering one? To give an offer before you have to can be a mess sometimes.. you try to wait as long as you can if you smart (especially, until you are sure what the player is going to give you).

If Morey listened us, he would have offered 5 year $100 million deal to T-WILL. Thank God, he is smart.

I would have been the first to b**** the hell out of Morey if he offered a good deal to Brooks and Brooks did not deliver.

You have to understand we are in win-win situation whatever we speak. Morey is in lose-lose situation regardless of what he does.

 

Oh really?.. lmao

I say you should ATLEAST negotiate to see where the minds are.

 

Cato was solid playing next to yao that year.
Anyone saying otherwise is full of isht.

Second. Other than the last game. . . The Rockets gave a team with
4 Future Hall of Famers on it .. everything they could handle.
In Fact. . That team that beat the rockets in the playoffs
was better than all the teams we faced in the playoffs in the McLady Era.

Rocket River

 

Wait a second, this is all of course assuming that Brooks is only upset because he doesn't have an extension, NOT because he is sucking huge chunks out there. What if it was more the latter than the former? If that is the case then THANK GOD we didn't sign him to a extension. We would've been stuck with a malcontent on a overpaid long term deal instead of someone we can now lowball IF we even want him back.

Wait.. oh THAT'S why no extensions is the policy.

 

Cato, in his final year with the Rockets had a FG% of 44%. For a PF/C, that is holy **** awful. Pulled down the rebounds, but no, Kelvin Cato is not a starting quality PF, and really not that much better, if at all, compared to Chuck. I don't know how anyone could be stupid enough to argue this.

And no gives a **** what the Rockets did as the 8th seed that year. How was that team as it was going to make the leap to contender status, especially since Stevie turned out the way he did. This is simply r****ded.

 

I would love to know the reasoning behind the no-extension policy because it seems like we're voluntarily preventing ourselves from getting good value contracts.

I can't think of a single instance where a team got a good value signing a non-max free agent, while I can think of dozens of instances where teams badly overpay. Let's take Brooks and his extension. We're essentially betting that in a league full of GMs who hand out max contracts to Rudy Gay and 60 million deals to Ben Gordon that not a SINGLE one will offer Brooks a stupid big contract. Some fool is going to offer him 10 mil a year and we'll have to match or lose our asset for nothing.

Most players who get extended are willing to take less than they'd get on the open market in return for security and the chance to play in a familiar system. What's the story, Morey?

 

What happened to being a man, and taking responsibility for your actions?

Stacy and Snottie deserve everything they get from the city of Houston. (Multiple cities for Tracy)

Brooks deserves the same. Perhaps Brooks gets another shot to redeem himself with youth being a factor, but I kind of doubt it.

 

rght now? without an extension, the rockets don't need to pay players even if the union decertifies, as there's no contract.

But tbh, if you're going to be "loyal" to people when you're not even a playoff team, you're doomed to memphis status mediocrity.

Only superstars and roleplayers on contenders deserves loyalty.

 

and we are wondering why stars don't want to come here?

we can say they quit and whatever, the organization never handles these things professionally either. for it to go this far with AB walking out in a crucial game with playoffs implications, it tells you things are uglier than what we know.

now AB is going to talk. now battier is going to talk. and they will talk to other players around the league during the trade deadline or offseason.

basically, the moment you're down, the organization will forget about you (unless you are yao and you bring in that cash).

ultimately, we're going to be a team with role players galore for a long time.

 

Maybe this is one of many reasons why top tier players do not want to come here...

 

Correct me if i'm wrong, but it turned out that Rockets were right about TMac....he wasn't ready and he hasn't been the same since he took himself out for that surgery....

As for AB, he needs to grow up...he got hurt and hasn't beat out Lowry for the starting job. It's really disappointing cause you would think that in a contract year, AB would step up and ball. But of course that hasn't happened.

My guess is that DM's strategy in the off season was to not extend him to see if that would motivate him to step his game up and get more out of him for the money he's being paid. Unfortunately, it looks like that strategy's backfired.

 

no, it appears like it's the MAIN reason. when you have a shane battier "complaining" publicly (and he's basically a perfect citizen), something is wrong. and words will spread.

beat out? he was the MIP last year as our starting PG. he lost it b/c of an injury. he has to win it back?

you do know we were a better team LAST YEAR than this year right? and brooks was arguably our best player. you would think the team would give him like a 10-15 game as the starting PG to regain his rhythm. i mean, he may be rushing back from injury b/c of the contract.

 

Because when an organization makes the mistake of trusting an injury prone player with 20% of the payroll and that strategy fails not one, or two, but 3 consecutive years. Then those players not seeing a penny of those millions and taking away the chances to compete fairly with other rosters (cause they have 20% less of money to get help) for a championship have very well documented reasons to not trust that organization.

 

Since the lies spoken by the Coach and Manager during the approaching departure of McGrady, I feel that our players surely do mistrust them both.
As a Fan I sure do!