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And people wonder why I don't trust the police

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rockbox, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. Lil Pun

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    No, I just respect the way the law works here and here in America the police are NOT judge, jury and executioner because unlike a lot of other people in a lot of other places, our citizens have rights even if they have been caught doing a crime, they have the right to a trial and are presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.
     
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  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Most have been fired. The victim did not sustain enough "damage" to warrant a felony charge/conviction. The beating occurred in March and was videotaped by accident by the building's security camera. At some point the building owner brought the video to police. An IA investigation occurred in the April, May, June timeframe.
     
  3. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    That's 100% true and the detractors here can't argue with it.

    "bbbbut he's a thug! I've been assraped! He looks like my assrapist! Beat him!"

    That's not la ley.

    That's nuts. Had the roles been reversed- robbers beating a cop, they'd all be in jail.
     
  4. Duncan McDonuts

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    The robber doesn't respect the law. Why should he expect the law to respect him?
     
  5. Lil Pun

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    Hmmm, I don't know.....I guess I'd expect law enforcement officers, to you know, well respect the laws they're enforcing instead of just making them up on a whim.
     
  6. MiddleMan

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    I agree he could of been killed by the homeowner, he got off easy!!
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    My guess is that the law reads differently if an officer is attacked, similar to some states where it is an automatic death penalty violation to shoot a police officer, but not necessarily if you shoot anyone else.
     
  8. Pete Chilcutt

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    I don't see how everyone feels sorry for the criminal here. IF he did not get caught, he would have done the same thing again, who knows maybe he would have hurt someone if they were at home.

    Home invaders do not get enough punishment. They can lead to murders and sexual assaults, just check all the ones here in Houston that have been so violent.
     
  9. Pete Chilcutt

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    They need to toughen up the laws here. I would say nearly half of the people that commit robberies and such do it over and over it again until they get caught or get killed from gang members or whatever.

    Many of them go to jail, get out in a year and just start right back up again. What good are they providing society? Fear to homeowners?
     
  10. JBIIRockets

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    Burglars deserve to get their ass kicked.

    If a person chooses to commit a crime, they choose to take on the risks, 1 of which includes, possibly getting their ass kicked by authorities.
     
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  11. dream_34

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    Best post in the thread. Although I have never had any legal issues of any kind, during my limited interactions with law enforcement, particularly when I lived in Texas I found the majority of them to be overly authoritative, power-tripping and egotistical. Although I understand and sympathize that the majority of the people they deal with are trying to "pull one over on them" they should still have the judgment and critical thinking ability to be able to make decisions on a case by case basis. Unfortunately it seems like far too many of them start with a guilty until proven innocent approach with everyone regardless of circumstances.
    Although it is unfair and probably inaccurate to generalize an entire profession based on my limited interaction and observation, I have just seen far too many cops (particularly in Houston) humiliate innocent people and behave in a completely irrational dictatorial manner for the sole reason that they can get away with it.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Having quality people in positions of law enforcement is what should distinguish America from any country in the world. Upholding the law in a noble manner should be a cherished objective.

    Don't get me wrong, criminals deserve to have the entire book thrown at them, but for a group of renegade officers to kick, punch and beat a defenseless criminal is inexcusable.

    The ONLY time I could see it as being 'justified' is if someone shoots an officer and his partner(s) simply lose control once he is caught.

    Here is an excerpt from the news story:

    "The video shows Chad Holley, who was 15 years old at the time, running along a metal fence away from police officers when a police car speeds towards him and cuts him off. The car slams into Holley. Holley's body goes flying across the car onto the ground. His body rolls and he ends up on his stomach. He clamps his hands over his head. Policemen run up to him and begin attacking him.

    The boy remains limp on the grass while police officers kick him from all sides. Only his feet move, apparently in reaction to the officers' kicks. One police officer then begins stomping on Holley's feet, and some officers kneel down on the ground beside him and start punching him. After being beaten for about two minutes by several police officers, Holley is handcuffed, and then picked up and thrown against the back of the police car."


    Wouldn't it have been easier for all involved for the first officer on the scene to simply handcuff and arrest him?
     
  13. magnomonkey

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    Some of you people really amaze me.....
     
  14. BMoney

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    It's a false choice to say people who disapprove of police brutality "feel sorry for the criminal." The law shouldn't be about satisfying emotions, or settling scores, or getting revenge. There is a breakdown of trust between law enforcement and many communities because of incidents like this.
     
  15. mylilpony

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    i wish i could have hired those cops after some dick broke into my car and stole my gps and my wifes ipod. Plus the damage to the car equaled 500 bucks. Some vids just show a snip-it of information and dont show the entire situation. Although if i was a cop, i wouldnt beat someone on the ground like that. Maybe if i had been chasing him and i saw him breaking the law, i would go batman on him.
     
  16. booyah

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    He didn't deserve the beating that he got. But at the same time, stealing and robbing people does not make him anymore innocent.
     
  17. opticon

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    I hate crime, especially home invasion. My head is on the side of he deserved to get beat for what he did and then running.

    But my heart reminded me that he was a 15 year old kid who has parents. I then thought of my two year old son. What if he made a bad decision and ended up getting beat down like that how would I feel then?

    If my son did something dumb like that I would want him roughed up a little bit for being a idiot but I would not want him kicked in the head 12 times or repeatedly punched in the stomach while defenseless.

    To qoute a silly meme on a important topic

    excessive force is excessive
     
  18. Thefabman

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    F*** the police...never met a good one in my life, all they're good for is harassing and demeaning you, I have no love for a cop, and videos like this are the reason I don't care when a cop gets killed.

    If that offends you, sorry but I'm not working off a small sample size, I've had countless run ins with these assholes, I get treated like a criminal every single time when I have nothing on my record, live my life straight....doesn't matter apparently. Stupid pigs.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    "Police brutality? Vhat is zhis prolice brutality you speak of????"
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    Rocket River
    Evidently, when you are a person of authority . . .you can do no wrong?
    Either people do what you say or they get shot or beaten!
     
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