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Check out my first computer rig in 12 years, thoughts?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by what, Jan 25, 2011.

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  1. jchu14

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    From what I've read, SSD have about the same failure rate as hard drives. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/french_retailer_data_offers_ssd_failure_rates/

    SSD will feel much snappier than any spinning drives. HDD in RAID 0 will have throughput that's comparable to an SSD, but the main advantage of an SSD (even cheap ones) is it's random seek time. Spinning hard drives has random seek time 5-10ms while SSD has seek times in the order of 0.1ms. Everything just feels smoother and quicker. The lack of noise is a plus as well. I moved from a Samsung F3 (a very good HDD) to a gskill 60gb SSD and I will never look back. I initially started with 2 60gb ssd in RAID0, but I really couldn't tell a difference in day to day use between RAID0 and non-RAID SSD. The transfer rate is incredible at >400MB/s, but I don't think the addition risk of RAID0 is worth it. Since data is striped acrossed multiple discs in RAID 0, if one of the disc fail, you lose all of the data.

    For a $3000 computer to not have a SSD is just crazy IMO. An 120gb SSD to hold your OS and often used program along with automated disc image backup to a spinning drive would be my setup of choice.

    I think you could've done better with the memory and power supply selection. That memory is really expensive for 4gb. You can get the Gskill Ripjaws 8gb kit that runs at lower voltage and have better timing for the same amount of money after coupon code 'DM15A0111US'. You could've gotten a Corsair 850AX for less money. PP&C makes solid powersupplies (even after being bought out by OCZ), but the Corsair AX series is just a newer design that's quieter and more efficient. I've heard great things about Corsair's customer service as well.
     
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    I would if i could remember. I know the motherboard was an aopen millennium Pentium 3 850, slot A i think.
    256 megs of ram.
    Avant prime keyboard,
    15 in sony trinitron
    PC Power and cooling power supply and case
    the video card, was an nvidia gforce 2. Running xp, vary sparingly, meaning I don't have any programs on here i don't need. I'm not even running sp2 because it slows the system down.

    I needed to upgrade.
     
  3. Dr of Dunk

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    1155 boards and their BIOS/UEFI are an adventure right now. Lots of people are having compatibility problems and lots are having problems with the Marvell controllers and SSD drives on these mobos. I bought a i7 2600k CPU and am still trying to decide what mobo to buy with all the problems I'm seeing. Gigabytes are still using the "old school" BIOS. That motherboard is a ripoff aimed at overclockers that don't need it, btw. You can save about $50 (+ tax) on that CPU by buying it at MicroCenter and can save a bit more if you don't plan on overlocking by buying a non-K version of the chip. You can also get that HAF case for about $20 cheaper at least.
     
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    The memory was the one thing I didn't research so much. So it makes since that I got snowed on that one. As far as power supplies go, I've always been a pc power and cooling fan. I know it is more expensive and I know people swear be modular drives but I am sticking with what I know.
     
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    Marvall for raid, right? I read that you are better off to stick with intel's version is that correct, dod?
     
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    Also, Dr., I don't think I found a board that wasn't a P versus an H. As I understand it, each version unlocks different things with the sandy bridge K unlocked processor, right?
     
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    solid state drive, my best recommendation
     
  8. Dr of Dunk

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    Most people are staying away from Marvell from what I've been reading. I can't comment since I'm still looking and don't have first-hand experience. :grin: On-board RAID has always scared me as it is.

    The P67 boards will allow you to overclock. If you bought an i7 2600K, then you should buy a P67 board. The K chips are "overclockable" and in order to overlock them as far as possible, you will need the P67. If you don't want to overclock, the H67 and an i7 2600 (non-K) is a better and cheaper combination. Also, the P67 does not support the CPU's on-board graphics, whereas the H67 does. But if you're using a high-end video card, you won't care.

    BTW, Z68 boards which should be out in a few months (2-4?) will somewhat be the best of P67's and H67's combined.
     
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    Man, dod, I really didn't expect to by everything. But I replaced just about everything on my computer. I was going to keep my case, it was pc power and cooling after all, but even the case is outdated. I bought a new ergonomic chair. The only thing I kept so far is my desk and my sound card and I am probably going to use my on board sound. I also am debating how to go about upgrading my operating system. I am using a piece of software that only runs in xp, called storyview and I don't really want to buy microsoft office again when I don't really care for the new versions of word anyway.

    Is anybody using xp mode on a windows 7 configuration? Are there any problems with it?
     
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    I'm not sure about using any compatibility modes being a problem. There are people I've read who had problems with their machines that seemed to go away when they just blew everything away and did a clean install instead of bringing over their old OS installation and attempting to "upgrade".

    The Gigabyte boards seem to have presented fewer problems than the Asus and MSI P67 boards, but Asrock boards seem to be the ones that have caused the least problems.
     
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    THIS.
    I've had his exact setup. Two 10k raptors. Just got me an OCZ SSD and it is noticeable faster. Love it.
     
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    Couldn't I just mirror data with a usb 3.0 thumb drive to back up my information?
     
  13. jchu14

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    You could, but an easier way I found would be to back up the entire disc image.

    Windows 7 has a built-in 'back up and restore' program. You can set it to create an image of your disc/partition weekly and save it on another drive. So in this case, you can have a automated weekly backup of your OS/SSD drive and save the image on another hard drive. Then if the OS/SSD partition ever crashes, you can reboot with your OS DVD and image the backup data onto the replacement drive. Then the computer will be exactly as when you created the backup.

    I find this way to be easier than finding all the important files and back them up one by one.

    Of course this also works if you have two HDD and want to back up one to the other one.
     
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    good stuff, i'm glad you bought a 6870.
    :)
     
  15. RAID

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    Nice system! Get that thing built and run some benchmarks. Let's battle :)

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    Man you are convincing me to get windows 7!
     
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    Well, I fially got my parts from newegg. I started installing at about 10:30 AM. It took me 10, maybe 11 hours to complete most of it. However since I didn't realize I had ordered the "bare" drive hdd, I didn't get the cables I needed to boot the sucker up. I took my time, and took many stops to read the manuals. Sometimes I had to take apart what I did because I forgot a step, like putting on the backplate before I installed the motherboard.

    I don't regret it one bit, because the alternative would have been to give my high dollar brand new parts to a computer shop and who knows if they'd be honest and put MY parts in the machine.

    Software is tomorrow once I get my sata hdd cables. This is the easy part for me because I know a heck of a lot more about software than I do about hardware !
     
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    I believe your mobo is triple channel, not dual. You'd be better off getting 3x2gigs of Ram for 6 gigs total if so.
     
  19. Drexlerfan22

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    1. Assuming a 64-bit OS, I would upgrade to 6GB of RAM or more.
    2. Get a solid state drive to run your OS.

    Sick rig overall, though.
     
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    I wasn't going to run 64 bit, until I realized that if I didn't do it I'd be limited to 4 gigs of memory for my enitire system, incuding the graphics cards. That would be stupid, so 64 bit bound.

    Also, this board is dual channel.
     

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