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Adelman the lame duck?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Jan 23, 2011.

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  1. BasketballMind

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    So true...
     
  2. dobro1229

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    Long term solution are the key words here. Adelmans style of coaching can get a team like the Rockets a couple more wins than they would have otherwise, but at Adelmans age, he isnt likely to have the desire to
    Develop young players and give himself a heart attack.

    It might be a good time for both parties to look more long term. If he wants another year or two then great, but a new identity for this team from a coaching standpoint might be what they look to do anyways.
     
  3. jae713

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    If Adelman decides to leave, we should look to sign coach who can develop young players and is able to scout talent. Larry Brown could be had maybe, not to mention he is also a defensive oriented coach.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    He is lame at defense. Not sure about his feelings on duck.
     
  5. Old Man Rock

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    I do not see any point getting a new coach. Un less Yao walks through the door healed forever and and feeling young again the Rockets aren't going anywhere soon. Adelman gets the most out of his players. They perform better under him and then get traded and never play as good. Let Adelman groom some players for trade and then trade them for better pieces and when we have a real squad ready to compete we can make a decision on Adelman.

    IMO Battier should be the next Rocket head coach. But not just yet. I would keep Adelman for at least a couple of more years and then hire Battier.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    Larry Brown is not a long term solution. The Rockets will most likely look more Tom Tibs than Larry Brown if Adelman decides to move along.
     
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    There needs to be a major roster shakeup if they want Adelman to stay. Get a real center, trade in some of our players with defensive deficiencies for two way players (at least one of them being an all-star talent).

    If this can't be accomplished by the off season, then I agree Rick and the Rockets should part ways. I mean who the hell would really want to coach this team as currently constructed? No center, no all-stars, all three of our borderline all-stars in AB, KMart, and Scola sucking on defense...

    I know we'll surely see some sort of changes, but they need to be drastic if we're looking to retain Adelman's services. If Morey just makes some little tweaks and then holds out for a superstar again next season, then it's time to free Rick.
     
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    He's an underachiever this year. I don't see how any decent NBA coach could do a worse job than he has done.

    Time for some new blood on the bench.
     
  9. gah

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    Twisted logic, here is what you should have said:

     
  10. TheFreak

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    I don't think his basketball analysis goes very deep.
     
  11. solid

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    :rolleyes:
     
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    something else interesting thing to consider is what impact not having the head coaching position ironed out before the offseason for free agency.
     
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    bottom line is that rick should be signed long term NOW! i dont want him on the free agent market...some other team would snap him up super quick!
     
  14. DaDakota

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    I think it is up to Rick, does he want to go through a rebuilding process at his age?

    That is where the decision lies...

    And Freak, there is little doubt about that...

    DD
     
  15. Dreamin

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    I hope he doesnt get re-singed. Morey should look for a long term coach like Spurs with Pop and Jazz with Sloan. I like how they are the cornerstone to their ball club instead of the players.

    I like heaps of things about them - they are rough and rugged, they hate sissys, they dont tolerate off-court non sense, they choose players with solid characters, they are good at integrating rookies into their system, they are tough on vets as well. They will bench the vets if they arent performing.

    Best of all - they dont require players to be suited to a particular system or style of play., they can integrate anyone who tries. They know how to get the best out of what they have. I hate how we have needed players that suite Aldeman's mould or players who suite JVGs mould.

    We need a coach that can mould a strategy/style of play according to the roster rather than someone who comes in with one style and rejects talent that cant fit to his system. JVG and Aldeamn did this a lot. Every scrub that Pop and Sloan have touched has turned into GOLD. Because they know how to utlise what talents they have.

    That is the type of coach we need. Our last coach was all defense and lame offense. This coach is all offense and lame defense. This time we need someone with balance, brains, braun and balls.
     
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    So you're saying that all the Rockets need is one of the greatest coaches of all time? Wow, I wonder why nobody else thought of that! Unfortunately we live in reality, where if you get rid of Rick Adelman, you have to replace him with an actual person that exists, not some make-believe mish-mash of your two favorite coaches, because obviously Pop/Sloan isn't coming here.

    And FYI, the Spurs also have Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, and Jefferson. The Jazz have Deron Williams. Players matter, and the Rockets don't have many great players. Rick Adelman has had just as much success as Jerry Sloan has had when given a quality roster.
     
  17. Z-Ro&Trae

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    please hire larry brown. brown is just too good of a coach to be coaching lackluster teams. i mean our team is lackluster also, but if we make some major moves, it will probably convine brown to try coaching one more time.
     
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    i wonder if the miami heat would pick up adelman if he was available this of season
     
  19. Z-Ro&Trae

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    convine= convince
     
  20. Dreamin

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    I know Pops or Sloan aint available. I was implying Morey should look for a coach with their traits and then commit long term. See if we can find a guy that can stick around for a long time. Its a fair suggestion. He doesnt have toi be the greatest coaches of all time. But someone who can INSPIRE the team, light a fire under their @$$ from time to time. Maxixmise what talent he has on the roster and go with that instead of whining what he doesnt have.

    Sure Spurs had the Admiral and Duncan. FYI Pops groomed Parker and Ginobli, many teams passed on them and didint think much but Pops turned them into GOLD. Look at Geroge Hill and Blair, they were late picks who Pops moulded into championship calibre players. Look at how he utlises Bonner, Look at Gary Neal. Look what he did to Uridh, Pops even turned Roger Mason into a very useful utility when he played for Spurs, same with Udoka beofore he got injured. Bruce Bowen was undrafted and usless untill Pops turned him into GOILD.

    Sloan had Stockton and Malone, then Deron and Boozer. Besides them exact same story as Pops, Sloan got guys that were late picks and no names and turned ino GOLD, or at the very least SOLID contributors. Milsap, Kirilenko, Cj Miles, Ronnie Brewer, Milsap, Wes Matthews, Harpring, Giricek to name a few recently, too many to list if i were to keep going back.

    You are comparing Aldeman to Sloan. I think you are just hate the Jazz like everyone here, so your judgement is clouded. You say Aldeamn had the same success as Sloan when he had the right team. Well I say this - if Sloan had this team, we would be sitting 5th in the West now. Dont demy it.

    Yeah Rockets dont have any great players since YAO AND TMAC lost thier skills. Thats not what I am saying - Pops and Sloan turned lots of scrubs INTO GREAT PLAYERS. That takes away a lot of pressure from the front office in trying to get stars all the time, changing and chopping rosters to facilitate/accomodate your coach ands stars. Screw that lets groome a star our selves and MAKE them tintegrate with each other.

    Sure these types of coaches dont grow on trees or come knoicking on doors everyday. Does that mean we stop looking and settle for Aldeman - HELL NO!!! SO are you saying we dont aim for the highest and settle for whatever we can? I am sorry me and you will never agree on this topic.
     

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