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Chemistry - Is it falling apart?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Entropy

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    I guess it comes down to whether our players as individuals are legit at playing their role. For the most part, they are too undersized, or playing out of position, or lacking the full set of tools that each position needs.
     
  2. Arun Sharma

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    Last night, Andre was out. Mathews got 9 assits and Rudy played like PG. The passing between the guys on the floor even after losing PG and Camby this week was just amazing.

    BTW, they were trailing when they were playing like this.
     
  3. Kojirou

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    Because they have Aldridge, AND A LEGIT CENTER WHICH WE DON'T HAVE AT ALL.

    Lars is right that chemistry is bullcrap. Kobe and Shaq didn't have exactly great chemistry after all. It's something that people use to create their stories ie. if a team wins, they must have good chemistry, if they lose, they don't, while ignoring much more important things such as overall talent and execution/effort. That's what matters, not some feelgood story.
     
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  4. RV6

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    On the bench all i see are players cheering for others. It's all genuine, nothing fake about it. On the court, i'd imagine any player, on any team, would be frustrated or upset heading towards another loss or after another bad defensive posession.




    I really do not understand comments like this. It really shows me fans aren't paying attention to anything that's isn't scoring or highlight defensive plays. He's older, slowing down, but he does not contribute? As in nothing at all?

    He hasn't hit timely 3 pt shots to extend leads late in games?

    He hasn't drawn charges?

    He hasn't made the right defensive rotations time after time, while others fail to time after time?

    He hasn't increased his stats ( some slightly, i know, but still) despite playing 2 less minutes a game?

    Only his FT% is significantly down this year.Players don't play 30 minutes a game in the NBA if they're not contributing anything. i don't care if its battier, chuck, whoever.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Some guys can overlook whether they like each other and keep the chemistry going on the floor.

    Others do not do that so well.

    Talent is the most important by far...but.....right now the chemistry on the floor is not good.

    DD
     
  6. dachuda86

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    lol the only player who wasn't selfish was Williams. Just saying that maybe something could be learned from the kid. :grin:
     
  7. BetterThanEver

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    Blow it all up, and give the Rockets 3 perennial all-stars, and we won't care about a chemistry. Celtics and Heat did it. The chemistry problems were a lower concern than that the talent level for those teams.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    All of those examples the teams had one of those players already, that is an uber fail of a strategy to me.

    The Rox are not going to be able to pull 3 all stars out of their collective hats.

    DD
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    There is chemistry in the locker room and chemistry on the floor...I think the Rox Chemistry in the locker room is fine.

    I think the chemistry on the court, where the skillsets compliment each others is broken.

    DD
     
  10. RV6

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    Although i disagree with larsv8 that chemistry is a myth, when you break it down like that you're really refering to synergy. They're not able to join their skills to produce a win. Chemistry on the court would be more like them not "getting" or seeing what each other is trying to do or what they're thinking. Right now they know what has to be done and what they're trying to do, but can't get it done because their skills aren't appropriate.
     
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    It was an example. If the Rockets did have 3 all stars, this lame chemistry talk would be history. Rockets wouldn't be in lotto land.
     
  12. MrJason

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    Defence wins championships. If it were up to me, I'd start

    Lowry
    Lee
    Williams/Battier
    Patterson
    Jeffries

    Let the defense start the game so they can set the statement/example. If were down by 8 or 10 in the first quarter then that means the defence of that unit isn't doing well or their offensive chemistry sucks. Either way, that's when you put in AB/Martin/Bud/etc.

    This way, the current starters will be forced to practice more on D if they want to earn their jobs back.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Fair enough BTE, I would love that too, winning does cure all ills, but I am mostly talking about the team now...I think they are not playing as hard as they did last year....there seems to be chemistry issues....on the floor...to me.

    DD
     
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    100% right. Morey's obsession with stats and numbers spills over to all aspects of management and is resulting in a lack of human touch in dealing with players who are all human, have emotions, can feel slighted, etc. Treating them like a bad of stats has results in a team that doesn't fit together, doesn't play with passion, and is constantly looking over their shoulders unsure where they will be after the trade deadline or after the season. Morey's a smart guy, but this is a badly run organization right now and it shows in every aspect, from player morale down to the fact that no major star ever wants to come here to the win-loss record.
     
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  15. DaDakota

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    I see, so that is semantics, what I call chemistry you guys call synergy....fine with me...

    How about this though, I think we lack effort.....especially on defense.

    DD
     
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    If we are talking about chemistry, it means the team has a) no star talent[(Martin and Scola are not stars], b) injury issues to key rotation players[Yao, Brooks, Budinger], or c) both.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Yet those same issues existed last year and the team played with much better chemistry.

    Their effort is not there, the spark is gone, their will, it seems has been lost, especially on defense.

    They can still hustle, but honestly do you see that anymore? We have a barrage of 30pt first quarters followed up by more of the same....this team has lost it's way...

    DD
     
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    Not true. Ish would have never gotten play time, last season.

    Aaron Brooks missed 0 games, last season. He missed 4-6 weeks to ankle injury, this season. That's alot for only 3 months of play. Ish should have never been playing.

    Kyle Lowry and Chase Budinger was injured at the beginning of the season, so he had to rehab to get back into shape. Budinger was rehabbing for 4-6 weeks.
     
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    Aaron Brooks has only played half the games, this season. You can say he doesn't matter, all you want DD. Ish does not equal Brooks.
     
  20. Hball

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    WE need more than just chemistry and a 7 footer, their are plenty of teams with a good centers and still suck (bucks, kings, wizards, grizzlies) what we need is a premiree player bottom line.

    It's not rocket science as soon as we lost both T-mac and yao it was time to rehaul and start trying to rebuilding through the draft, not retool with a bunch of second tier players taking up cap space to be stuck in mediocrity.
     

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